Did The CIA use a MK-Ultra to Interfere with Jack Ruby's Case?

[Jon Banks]

MKULTRA researcher wanted to continue his mind control experiments at the same time he was treating Ruby

West also said that his LSD research was limited to animals, although it’s known from the recovered documents that he worked with humans. While he publicly denied being aware that the project was CIA funded, documents show that he was explicitly aware of it and he was in direct contact with the CIA project heads.

A recovered CIA document listing different MKULTRA subprojects shows that Subproject 43, associated with West and occurring at the University of Oklahoma, began in 1955 and ended in 1956 (when he also retired from the Air Force). The LSD work with animals that he and Sharp referred to took place years later and may or may not have involved human experimentation (although it’s known that his earlier work did). It might be easy to dismiss this, if not for the proposal for West to continue his MKULTRA work with CIA for another 11 years.

Other researchers who previously examined some of the documents embedded at the bottom of the article missed crucial facts. Colin Ross’ examination in The CIA Doctors describes the proposal, but fails to note the fact that it was written after the $20,000+ documented funds that West received from CIA. The letter accompanied with the proposal is dated February 1956, and clearly references upcoming work for the next fiscal year.

In the first subsection of the proposal itself, West says that he wants to continue the work for another 11 years. ”It is proposed that the experiments begun during 1955-56 involving hypnotizability, suggestibility, and the roles of certain drugs in altering these attributes, be continued and extended during 1956-67.” This would place West’s treatment of Ruby about three years before the proposed end of this particular MKULTRA subproject. In the proposal, West describes several elements of experiments that match the isolated experience of Ruby and West’s stated reason for going to see him.

The Agency’s response to West’s proposal was apparently ordered destroyed along with all the other MKULTRA records. However, he continued to appear in CIA files as late as 1991. According to one document, West was indirectly involved in the STARGATE program which had a surprising amount of crossover with MKULTRA and its sister programs. While this particular project was undertaken by the Defence Intelligence Agency, the CIA’s counterpart in the Department of Defense, it was considered a CIA equity.

According to the document, “Serious government-funded research of both these domains began in 1973 when the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) initiated a modest effort to determine if a genuine anomalous phenomenon could be verified and to assess the degree to which it could be applied to general intelligence problems.” Coincidentally, 1973 is the same year that the MKULTRA program was officially terminated.

While the research project’s stated goal was studying anomalous phenomena such as remote viewing and remote interference, the experiments themselves focused on remotely altering someone’s perceptions and nervous system, essentially making the research dual-purpose. If it had been successful, the research could have been used not only as part of a psychic remote viewing program but to design a way to remotely interfere with someone’s perceptions, personality, or consciousness. While many of the documents relating to this program wound up in declassified CIA files, being CIA equities and an extension of a CIA program, many more seem to remain classified.

Whatever evidence there was about CIA’s continuing relationship with West, and whether or not they accepted his proposal to continue his MKULTRA research, was destroyed decades ago. This blanket destruction removed any chance to properly exonerate the Agency, leaving just enough information to provide disturbing glimpses into the potential connections between Ruby and MKULTRA after Oswald was assassinated.

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/dec/19/mkruby/

[Robert Reeves]

The BIG fact of this Ruby & Jolly West relationship in 1964 is that West's CIA/MKULTRA background was still classified. Hidden. Neither West nor the CIA disclosed their relationship at the time he was involved with Jack Ruby: the Church committee a decade later revealed CIA's funding of West's mind control research in Oklahoma, and then to UCLA.

Fred Litwin, and Tracy Parnell's advocacy of Fred's attempts to gaslight people, on the subject of Jolly West, has revealed the depth of their dishonesty.

Oh yeah, I nearly forgot, Steve M. Galbraith has the cheek to try and smear people with mental illness if they dare to question the CIA's involvement with the assassination/cover up of JFK. That is what you'd expect from a lowly gutless creep on the internet.

[Fred Litwin]

There is no evidence that there was ANY relationship between West and the CIA when he examined Ruby - at the request of the defense.

None.

His work in MK-Ultra ended in 1956, perhaps 1957.

fred

[Robert Reeves]

There is no evidence that there was ANY relationship between West and the CIA when he examined Ruby - at the request of the defense.

None.

His work in MK-Ultra ended in 1956, perhaps 1957.

fred

There's no surviving documentation detailing the 'contractors' involved with MKULTRA because *surprise surprise* the CIA destroyed the majority of evidence. As per policy. The scandal of CIA sponsored MKULTRA experiments being carried out at major universities only came to light because something went wrong in the document deletion policy of the CIA, up until the late 50's. Almost everything after the late 50's was censored or disappeared. This was admitted by Helms.

Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms�ordered all MK-ULTRA files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms' destruction order.1-41 Although the CIA insists that MK-ULTRA-type experiments have been abandoned, 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the CIA routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued.

From the CIA's own site. Dear Fred. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/06760269

[John Mytton]

Jack Ruby was interviewed shortly before his death and with nothing to lose gives a simple and understandable explanation for his actions.

https://www.jfk-online.com/rubydeathbed.html

JohnM

[Jon Banks]

The BIG fact of this Ruby & Jolly West relationship in 1964 is that West's CIA/MKULTRA background was still classified. Hidden. Neither West nor the CIA disclosed their relationship at the time he was involved with Jack Ruby: the Church committee a decade later revealed CIA's funding of West's mind control research in Oklahoma, and then to UCLA.

Fred Litwin, and Tracy Parnell's advocacy of Fred's attempts to gaslight people, on the subject of Jolly West, has revealed the depth of their dishonesty.

Oh yeah, I nearly forgot, Steve M. Galbraith has the cheek to try and smear people with mental illness if they dare to question the CIA's involvement with the assassination/cover up of JFK. That is what you'd expect from a lowly gutless creep on the internet.

I don’t know if it’s naivety or willful blindness to the deception and corruption of the CIA.

Here’s former CIA director, Mike Pompeo, admitting to how intentional deception was business as usual at the CIA

[Fred Litwin]

I mention all of this in my post, if you would only read it.

I am glad that you cannot counter my statement. There is NO evidence that West was associated with the CIA when he examined Ruby.

None. I am sorry that you are upset about that.

fred