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Online Richard Smith

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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2023, 03:07:28 PM »
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Actually, LBJ didn't run in 1968 so it was an open primary.

I don't see RFK Jr as viable in the Dem primaries. Unless someone like California or Michigan's governors jump in, I don't see any real threat to Biden being nominated.

LBJ saw the light.  He was smarter than Old Joe.  Which isn't saying much.  Biden has dementia.  He is being manipulated by his family who face criminal charges and political cronies who want to retain their influence.  No reasonable person believes Biden is in mental and physical condition to be president and he is unlikely to finish a second term at his advanced age.  Meaning Kamala will likely become president without ever receiving a single vote.  Susan Rice has just jumped ship. 

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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2023, 03:07:28 PM »


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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2023, 03:32:12 PM »
LBJ saw the light.  He was smarter than Old Joe.  Which isn't saying much.  Biden has dementia.  He is being manipulated by his family who face criminal charges and political cronies who want to retain their influence.  No reasonable person believes Biden is in mental and physical condition to be president and he is unlikely to finish a second term at his advanced age.  Meaning Kamala will likely become president without ever receiving a single vote.  Susan Rice has just jumped ship.

The two potential curveballs that I see affecting Biden's chances are:

- The legal troubles for his son. The DOJ appears to be very close to prosecuting Hunter for tax related issues.

- What happens in Ukraine by the end of this year. There's a new Politico article out this morning confirming that the Biden administration is concerned about the political consequences at home if the upcoming Ukrainian counteroffensive fails.

On the second point, I have wondered myself if Biden has gambled too much political capital on the Ukraine war. It could be a major problem for him throughout the 2024 election if the war over there continues throughout the Presidential campaign.

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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2023, 07:18:58 PM »
The two potential curveballs that I see affecting Biden's chances are:

- The legal troubles for his son. The DOJ appears to be very close to prosecuting Hunter for tax related issues.

- What happens in Ukraine by the end of this year. There's a new Politico article out this morning confirming that the Biden administration is concerned about the political consequences at home if the upcoming Ukrainian counteroffensive fails.

On the second point, I have wondered myself if Biden has gambled too much political capital on the Ukraine war. It could be a major problem for him throughout the 2024 election if the war over there continues throughout the Presidential campaign.

Yes, Ukraine is a wild card.  It began as a positive with many buying the fake "pro-democracy, Ukraine good, Russia bad"  propaganda.  Support is already waning but hasn't become negative.  If the Russians cave in the coming months, then Biden will be celebrated.  If the war continues in stalemate for years as likely, then enthusiasm will wane as it does for all wars.  "Europe" has already mostly checked out.  As usual, they are content to allow the US to bear the cost.  And, of course, there is no better time for China to invade Taiwan with the US bogged down in Ukraine.  Is Old Joe going to start WWIII during a presidential campaign over Taiwan?  Doesn't seem likely.  If China was ever going to do it, the time is coming.  They don't want to deal with Trump or DeSantis in a post-Ukraine future.   A Chinese invasion of Taiwan would have worldwide economic consequences - and not for the good.  It would make the COVID lockdown seem like a minor inconvenience.  Global market collapse.  Not sure Biden or anyone in office could survive the economic consequences of sanctions on China similar to those imposed on Russia.  The US and world economy are tied to China for good or ill.  It would be much more significant than the impact of sanctions on Russia. 

In terms of Hunter, I think the corrupt DOJ will find a way to give him a slap on the wrist and it will be done.  They haven't sat on evidence of his numerous felonies for all these years to throw the book at him just as Old Joe ramps up his campaign.  They are politically biased and corrupt.  I also see no way possible that Biden, in his obvious physical and mental decline, could finish a second term.  The election should factor in the likelihood that Kamala would become president in a second term.  And I think most voters including the most radical Dems can't see that as a positive thing.  To put it kindly, she is simply not up to the task.

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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2023, 07:18:58 PM »


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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2023, 01:31:03 PM »
RFK is up to nearly 20% in some polls as most Dems don't want Old Joe to run.  Not a great sign.  The only issue that Biden can conjure up is a drumbeat of Trump hatred and fear.  Somehow if you vote for someone other than Ukraine Joe, it is a threat to democracy.  You are likely a racist as well.  The New America under the Big Brother leftists.

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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2023, 03:17:38 PM »
RFK is up to nearly 20% in some polls as most Dems don't want Old Joe to run.  Not a great sign.  The only issue that Biden can conjure up is a drumbeat of Trump hatred and fear.  Somehow if you vote for someone other than Ukraine Joe, it is a threat to democracy.  You are likely a racist as well.  The New America under the Big Brother leftists.

Biden is a very weak incumbent. The only thing he has going for him in the next election is that he's not Trump. Which won't do him any good if Trump somehow loses the GOP nomination.

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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2023, 03:37:12 PM »
Biden is a very weak incumbent. The only thing he has going for him in the next election is that he's not Trump. Which won't do him any good if Trump somehow loses the GOP nomination.

Old Joe can't hide behind COVID in the upcoming election.  He will actually have to campaign.  A real liability for him to be seen and heard by the public which is why it almost never happens.  And who knows how many more disasters will unfold under his clown show before the election.  His age and cognitive decline can no longer be ignored.  But you are right.  There are many people who would rather be broke, murdered on the streets, or nuked in WWIII before they would vote for Trump.  The relentless media and state sponsored propaganda has been effective in programming many people to believe that defeating Trump is the most important issue in the world.
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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2023, 03:47:39 AM »

Biden is a very weak incumbent. The only thing he has going for him in the next election is that he's not Trump. Which won't do him any good if Trump somehow loses the GOP nomination.

The only thing Biden has going for him is he is not Trump. Well, that's a hell of a lot more than Trump has going for him.

Biden, or any Democratic candidate, is a strong candidate. And will decisively win against the Republican candidate. Who will be Trump.

The only chance the Republicans have, is that somehow, Trump does not win the nomination. But that is not going to happen.

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Re: RFK Jr to challenge President Biden
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2023, 06:16:52 PM »
The only thing Biden has going for him is he is not Trump. Well, that's a hell of a lot more than Trump has going for him.

Biden, or any Democratic candidate, is a strong candidate. And will decisively win against the Republican candidate. Who will be Trump.

The only chance the Republicans have, is that somehow, Trump does not win the nomination. But that is not going to happen.

Trump has a record of success during his presidency that is almost unsurpassed in modern times.  Love him or hate him, things were demonstrably better off during his administration than in this current clown show of incompetents.  And just imagine how bad things could get if Old Joe continues to decline and we are left with Kamala.  China will not wait a second to invade Taiwan in the face of such weakness.  Then we have WWIII or the most severe economic crisis in history with a complete fool as president.