John Durham report on Trump-Russia stuff


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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: John Durham report on Trump-Russia stuff
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2023, 09:07:30 PM »
It is amazing the radical leftists STILL won't admit this was a hoax.  It was baseless and laughable from beginning to end.  Any child knew that the media was acting as a state arm of propaganda.  Here is how it worked.  A Trump hating deep stater would leak a fake story to media outlet A who would report it.  Then every other leftist media outlet would report it as a fact citing the initial report as though that alone gave the story validity.  They didn't care whether it was true or not.  All that mattered to them was to get Trump.  The cover has been officially blown now.  It took seven years and won't do any good except for the history books that will look back upon this era the way we look at the McCarthy Red Scare.  A dark time of censorship, disinformation, and corrupt justice system to interfere in the US elections.  An actual insurrection attempt that finally paid off in 2020 election.

The post above is what you call propaganda.
 
It's amazing right wingers still won't admit there was Russian collusion when Criminal Donald and his own people ADMITTED to it. 

Trump ADMITTED his son Junior met with a Russian for information on his opponent. That is Russian collusion.

George Papadopoulos, a Trump aide, went to prison for lying to the FBI about meeting with Russians. Papadopoulos then plead guilty to lying to the FBI about meeting with Russians. That is Russian collusion.   

Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign chairman, ADMITTED he gave confidential Trump campaign information to a Russian Intelligence officer which was used to interfere in the 2016 election. That is Russian collusion. And right wingers still want to falsely claim Russian collusion is a "hoax" just to protect Criminal Donald.       

Trump Junior, Papadopoulos, and Manafort all met with Russians during the 2016 campaign. That activity raises a red flag to US Intelligence which is more than enough to warrant an FBI investigation into his campaign activity. 

For 4 years, right wingers continued to hype Durham's phony probe that turned up nothing. No evidence was found to charge anyone by Durham in his joke of a probe. And right wingers still continue to hype this "probe" pretending there was something there.   

Trump's people met with the Russians during the 2016 campaign and they all ADMITTED to it. And yet, right wingers still cry "hoax" and Durham meekly says "no FBI investigation should have happened" even after Trump and his henchmen ADMITTED to Russian collusion. It's absolutely hilarious how far these right wingers go to cover up for an orange criminal.         

Trump admits son met Russian for information on opponent
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45079377

Ex-Trump Aide Papadopoulos, 1st Charged In Russia Probe
George Papadopoulos, 31, pleaded guilty last year to lying to the FBI to conceal his contacts with Russians and Russian intermediaries during the presidential campaign
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/07/645539743/ex-trump-aide-papadopoulos-1st-charged-in-russia-probe-sentenced-to-14-days

Ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort admits sharing info with Russians
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/paul-manafort-russia-polling-data-b2140727.html

U.S. has new intel that Manafort friend Kilimnik gave Trump campaign data to Russia
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-has-new-intel-manafort-friend-kilimnik-gave-trump-n1264371
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Re: John Durham report on Trump-Russia stuff
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Re: John Durham report on Trump-Russia stuff
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2023, 09:54:54 PM »
So Paul Manafort, Criminal Donald's 2016 campaign chairman ADMITTED that he shared campaign information with a Russian Intelligence officer and right wingers still want to falsely claim there was no Russian collusion and it was all a "hoax". LOL.

Manafort ADMITTED he gave Trump campaign information to a Russian intelligence officer. That's Russian collusion and enough to warrant an FBI investigation.

Durham is a joke, and his phony claim that "no FBI investigation should have happened" is pathetic when you have Trump's own head guy admitting to his crime after it happened.       

Ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort admits sharing info with Russians
08 August 2022

Paul Manafort the chairman of former president Donald Trumpís 2016 campaign, has admitted sharing confidential campaign polling data with a suspected Russian intelligence officer at the same time Moscow was interfering in the 2016 election on Mr Trumpís behalf.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/paul-manafort-russia-polling-data-b2140727.html

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Re: John Durham report on Trump-Russia stuff
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2023, 01:50:09 AM »
Wow. Durham's opinion is that the FBI was to fast to open up a full investigation and that opinion is based on nothing but hot air.
It took him 4 years and that's all he could come up with.....  Hilarious!

Just because he wrote his opinion in a report doesn't mean it's of any significance.

It might have had some significance if it had resulted in consequences for those involved, but it didn't. A four year long "investigation" resulting in nothing! LOL

Former FBI agent, Kevin Clinesmith plead Guilty to altering a document in order to mislead the FISA court. Everyone seems to forget about his case.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/29/fbi-lawyer-trump-russia-probe-email-463750


Aside from that prosecution, yeah, Durham didnít get any major scalps. But was that his goal?

Durham strikes me as a guy who is trying to get the FBI to avoid making the same mistakes in the future. I donít believe he intended to take on the ďdeep stateĒ or burn down the FBI.

In a democracy, unelected bureaucrats shouldnít be doing politicized investigations. That was supposed to have ended when J. Edgar Hoover died.

The most interesting revelation in the report in my opinion is that Clintonís campaign was already planning to push the Trump-Russia collusion narrative before the FBI started their investigations into Trumpís campaign. And Obama was briefed on it by his CIA director.

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Re: John Durham report on Trump-Russia stuff
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2023, 01:17:00 PM »
The post above is what you call propaganda.
 
It's amazing right wingers still won't admit there was Russian collusion when Criminal Donald and his own people ADMITTED to it. 

Trump ADMITTED his son Junior met with a Russian for information on his opponent. That is Russian collusion.

George Papadopoulos, a Trump aide, went to prison for lying to the FBI about meeting with Russians. Papadopoulos then plead guilty to lying to the FBI about meeting with Russians. That is Russian collusion.   

Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign chairman, ADMITTED he gave confidential Trump campaign information to a Russian Intelligence officer which was used to interfere in the 2016 election. That is Russian collusion. And right wingers still want to falsely claim Russian collusion is a "hoax" just to protect Criminal Donald.       

Trump Junior, Papadopoulos, and Manafort all met with Russians during the 2016 campaign. That activity raises a red flag to US Intelligence which is more than enough to warrant an FBI investigation into his campaign activity. 

For 4 years, right wingers continued to hype Durham's phony probe that turned up nothing. No evidence was found to charge anyone by Durham in his joke of a probe. And right wingers still continue to hype this "probe" pretending there was something there.   

Trump's people met with the Russians during the 2016 campaign and they all ADMITTED to it. And yet, right wingers still cry "hoax" and Durham meekly says "no FBI investigation should have happened" even after Trump and his henchmen ADMITTED to Russian collusion. It's absolutely hilarious how far these right wingers go to cover up for an orange criminal.         

Trump admits son met Russian for information on opponent
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45079377

Ex-Trump Aide Papadopoulos, 1st Charged In Russia Probe
George Papadopoulos, 31, pleaded guilty last year to lying to the FBI to conceal his contacts with Russians and Russian intermediaries during the presidential campaign
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/07/645539743/ex-trump-aide-papadopoulos-1st-charged-in-russia-probe-sentenced-to-14-days

Ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort admits sharing info with Russians
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/paul-manafort-russia-polling-data-b2140727.html

U.S. has new intel that Manafort friend Kilimnik gave Trump campaign data to Russia
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-has-new-intel-manafort-friend-kilimnik-gave-trump-n1264371

Plain and simple, This was a hoax.  Those behind it knew it was a hoax.  You know it is a hoax.  The most baseless and outlandish conspiracy theory in history.  You should be ashamed to be still be peddling this falsehood now that it officially debunked.  Why not for one single time put politics aside and admit this was wrong?  It was also wrong to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop as a product of Russian disinformation.  It was also wrong for social media outlets to censor any suggestion that COVID originated in the Wuhan lab. 
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Re: John Durham report on Trump-Russia stuff
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2023, 10:28:51 PM »
British intelligence found FBI Russia collusion probe so absurd it stopped helping
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British intelligence expressed skepticism about the FBI's investigation into the Donald Trump campaign's alleged ties to Russia in 2016, and eventually became so concerned it stopped cooperating, according to evidence made public in Special Counsel John Durham's recent report.

Durham highlighted an exchange between an intelligence official and the FBI's legal attache office in London (ALAT) in which the latter relayed concerns about the flimsiness of the evidence, especially as it related to former Trump campaign aides George Papadopoulos and Carter Page.

"Dude, are we telling them [British Intelligence Service-1]  everything we know, or is there more to this?" he asked "Supervisory Special Agent-1." "That's all we have... not holding anything back," was the reply, prompting ALAT to retort "Damn that's thin."

The FBI legat in London "went on to tell the Inspection Division that in discussing the matter with a senior British Intelligence Service-I official, the official was openly skeptical, said the FBI's plan for an operation made no sense, and asked UK ALAT-1 why the FBI did not just go to  Papadopoulos and ask him what they wanted to know, a sentiment UK ALA T-I told investigators that he shared," he wrote.

The Brits' concern escalated throughout 2016 and 2017, eventually resulted in a UK intelligence officer refusing to aid the FBI any further, Durham's report revealed.


"Later in the Fall of 2016, UK ALAT-1 was at FBI Headquarters with some of his British Intelligence Service-I counterparts. While there, members of the Crossfire Hurricane team played the audio/visual recordings of CHS-1 's August 20, 2016 meeting with Carter Page," Durham wrote. "UK ALAT-1 said the effect on the British Intelligence Service-I personnel was not positive because of the lack of any evidence corning out of the conversation."

"UK ALAT-1 told the OIG that after watching the video one of his British colleagues said, 'For [expletive] sake, man. You went through a lot of trouble to get him to say nothing,'" the report said.

By the time Robert Mueller was named special counsel to take over the FBI investigation, British intelligence had had enough.

"At a later point in time, after the Mueller Special Counsel team was in place, UK ALAT-1 said that 'the Brits finally had enough,' and in response to a request for some assistance '[a British Intelligence Service-I person] basically said there was no [expletive] way in hell they were going to do it.'"

Retired FBI intelligence chief Kevin Brock told Just the News last week that Durham exposed just how much the discredited Russia collusion probe "disrupted the country and besmirched the good reputation of the FBI.

"The FBI essentially was hijacked by a handful of senior executives who had an agenda, who did not like Donald Trump, and who used the awesome powers of the FBI to launch an investigation against all policy, against all legal guidelines and restrictions that would prevent the misuse of the FBI," Brock said.

https://justthenews.com/world/europe/tueuk-intelligence-wouldnt-help-trump-russia-investigation?utm_source=mux&utm_medium=social
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