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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2023, 01:44:51 AM »
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Could someone please explain to Mr. Nessan the amazingly simple point that these cardboard boxes were movable items?

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And Oswald moved some of the boxes as confirmed by his prints.  Guilty!

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2023, 01:49:03 AM »
Again, no matter how hard you guys try, and no matter how much trust you ask us to place in DPD & Co., none of this will ever put Mr. Oswald at the SN window at 12:30 firing at the motorcade. The very, very, very best you could ever hope to get would be Mr. Oswald handling a couple of boxes found in the SN-----------------a scenario logically consistent with
*Mr. Oswald as LN shooter
*Mr. Oswald as accomplice
*Mr. Oswald as framed patsy
*Mr. Oswald as unlucky order filler

Every time you guys pivot to this as some sort of clincher, you just reveal your deep anguish at your inability (after six decades!) to convincingly put Mr. Oswald at the SN window at 12:30 firing at the motorcade......................

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Of course, Oswald's prints on the SN boxes are not the only evidence.  His prints are also on a long bag next to the window.  Fired shell casings from a rifle belonging to him are by the window from which witnesses confirm the shots were fired.  And, oh yeah, his rifle was left on the floor.    He fled the scene and murdered a police officer.  Oswald lied to the DPD about his ownership of the rifle and many other things.  But us gullible types are just accepting the "official" story.  Cue sinister music.

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2023, 01:50:41 AM »
And Oswald moved some of the boxes as confirmed by his prints.

So--------------the very, very best this can ever give you still won't be enough to put Mr. Oswald at the SN window at 12:30pm

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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2023, 02:01:24 AM »
Of course, Oswald's prints on the SN boxes are not the only evidence.  His prints are also on a long bag next to the window.  Fired shell casings from a rifle belonging to him are by the window from which witnesses confirm the shots were fired.  And, oh yeah, his rifle was left on the floor.

Even if we were to be foolish enough to accept all your claims here, Mr. Smith, you would still only have an evidentiary pattern that is ambiguous-----------it could point to Mr. Oswald as (suicidally stupid) lone gunman; Mr. Oswald as (suicidally trusting) gunman in a conspiracy; Mr. Oswald as (suicidally trusting) non-gunman but accomplice; Mr. Oswald as innocent patsy.

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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2023, 02:47:18 AM »
And Oswald moved some of the boxes as confirmed by his prints.  Guilty!

LHO was not involved in laying the floor and moving the boxes. Using the boxes for a rifle rest was totally his idea. Additionally, the boxes were unopened, he had no reason to be handling them. The viability of the prints was a maximum of 24 hours.

LHO is the only person whose fingerprints are on every piece of evidence. Guilty and executed. Ruby saved a lot of effort and expense with a 5 cent bullet.

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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2023, 10:17:33 AM »
Of course, Oswald's prints on the SN boxes are not the only evidence.  His prints are also on a long bag next to the window.  Fired shell casings from a rifle belonging to him are by the window from which witnesses confirm the shots were fired.  And, oh yeah, his rifle was left on the floor.    He fled the scene and murdered a police officer.  Oswald lied to the DPD about his ownership of the rifle and many other things.  But us gullible types are just accepting the "official" story.  Cue sinister music.

But us gullible types are just accepting the "official" story.

Well, let's see....

You blindly accept that there was indeed "a long bag next to the window", just because a cop said so.

You blindly accept that the rifle found at the TSBD was "his rifle" despite the fact that it doesn't match the description of the rifle Oswald allegedly ordered.

Yeah, I'd say that's pretty gullible.

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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2023, 10:29:09 AM »
LHO was not involved in laying the floor and moving the boxes. Using the boxes for a rifle rest was totally his idea. Additionally, the boxes were unopened, he had no reason to be handling them. The viability of the prints was a maximum of 24 hours.

LHO is the only person whose fingerprints are on every piece of evidence. Guilty and executed. Ruby saved a lot of effort and expense with a 5 cent bullet.

See this here------------the mishmash of factual statement + speculation + outright falsehood + frothing at the mouth? 1 2, skip a few, 99, 100!

Just the latest demonstration that Warren Gullibility is a midwit cult for those who lack even the basic skills of critical thinking

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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2023, 02:00:45 PM »
So far, after considerable study and a lot of helpful advice (thanks), I have come up with some revised dimensions. These estimates are just that (estimates) because it would take someone actually measuring the boxes at the national archives to obtain accurate measurements. So, here are the estimates:

Box “A” - (CE 641 and CE 1306): 13”w x 9”d x 8.5”h

Box “B” - (CE 653 and CE 1308): 13”w x 9”d x 8.5”h

Box “C” - (CE 654 and CE 1309): 17”w x 11.5”d x 14”h

Box “D” - (CE 648 and CE 1307): 17.5”w x 11.75”d x 13”h

I have revised the first post in this thread to reflect the changes…
« Last Edit: February 11, 2023, 04:46:23 PM by Charles Collins »