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Online Charles Collins

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Re: The Floor-Laying Crew
« Reply #133 on: January 29, 2023, 05:36:54 PM »
I disagree. I think those boxes are at least a foot deep.


What do you mean by that?

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Re: The Floor-Laying Crew
« Reply #134 on: January 29, 2023, 05:45:35 PM »
Draw a line from the two-wheel cart to where the line of sight becomes obscured by the tall stack you’ve marked with Xs. In front of that line to the window there are the three short rows of boxes at least a foot deep each (where you see the soda bottle in the foreground), and the “aisle” next to the window, which would be at least 2 feet deep, or a little more.
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Re: The Floor-Laying Crew
« Reply #135 on: January 29, 2023, 05:55:57 PM »
Draw a line from the two-wheel cart to where the line of sight becomes obscured by the tall stack you’ve marked with Xs. In front of that line to the window there are the three short rows of boxes at least a foot deep each (where you see the soda bottle in the foreground), and the “aisle” next to the window, which would be at least 2 feet deep, or a little more.


I estimate the south “aisle” to be about 24” wide and the tall stack to be about 35” from the south wall. It seems to me we are both in the same ballpark. Do you agree?

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« Reply #136 on: January 29, 2023, 06:57:03 PM »
From 'Collaborators of the Conspiracy", a 1992 article in The Third Decade by Mr. William Weston:



Mr. Weston suggests that the crew moved up from five to six (on Wed 11/20) even though the fifth-floor job was not fully completed. From this he suggests that the floor-laying crew of Depository men (Messrs. Shelley, Givens, Lovelady, Arce, Williams) may have been knowingly securing the sixth floor in good time for Friday's motorcade.

However, we can now see---------thanks to Mr. Harold Norman's information about an external flooring crew-----------that no such foreknowledge would have been required on the part of the Depository workers, nor for them to have made the call to move prematurely from five to six. They were simply following instructions, and helping out the outside crew in good faith. Once the assassination happened, they were horrified (and terrified) to realise what those men had really been there for----------and why the move up to to six had to have happened when it did.

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Re: The Floor-Laying Crew
« Reply #137 on: January 29, 2023, 07:47:36 PM »

I estimate the south “aisle” to be about 24” wide and the tall stack to be about 35” from the south wall. It seems to me we are both in the same ballpark. Do you agree?

I would say at least 4 feet back.

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Re: The Floor-Laying Crew
« Reply #138 on: January 29, 2023, 09:00:53 PM »
I would say at least 4 feet back.


Okay, here's what ~4.5' looks like in my 3D model. BRW sitting on the cart is the camera position and is represented by the virtual visitor icon. I don't think it is quite that far, but giving you the benefit of the doubt, the stack of boxes is approximately 4.5' from the inside of the south wall. I have made one box invisible so that part of the rifleman character can be seen behind the boxes from BRW's position. The rifleman character is about 5' from the inside of the south wall, within the revised range that Rowland estimated.







Here is the view from Arnold Rowland's position. It fits reasonably well with his description.





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Re: The Floor-Laying Crew
« Reply #139 on: January 29, 2023, 11:02:51 PM »
Hmm...ok, conceivable.  But that would put the gunman tantalizingly close to the very edge of being seen.