Evidence of Serious Election Fraud in the 2020 Election

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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Evidence of Serious Election Fraud in the 2020 Election
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2023, 03:35:34 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/16/dr-fauci-plans-to-vote-in-person-how-to-vote-safely-during-pandemic.html


But 79-year-old White House advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said it’s safe to vote in person — in fact, he is going to try to vote in person, his schedule permitting, he told Yahoo! News Thursday.

“If one does the polling process carefully and prudently, I think it would be fine for people to go to the polls, who feel that that’s something that they want to do,” Fauci told Yahoo! News.

Yes, but not everyone would end up doing this "as carefully and prudently" as Dr. Fauci would.

Would all voters know the proper type of mask to use, as Dr. Fauci would?
Would all voters know how to wear such a mask properly, with minimum gaps between the face and mask, as Dr. Fauci would?
Would all voters even be able to get ahold of the type of mask that Dr. Fauci would believe to be sufficient, as I assume Dr. Fauci did?
Would all voters carry disinfectant with them so they could immediately clear their hands after exchanging ballots with others?

Dr. Fauci said it would be find for him to vote in person, which I think it would be correct. But I don't hear him saying everyone should vote in person, whether they followed the proper procedures or not, or even knew the proper procedures sufficiently or not, or had the proper mask and disinfectant or not.

I think, that if pressed on the issue, Dr. Fauci would advise most voters to only vote in person:

* if they knew what sort of mask and disinfectant to bring
* was able to get ahold of these items
* knew exactly how to use these items, particularly the mask
* were really keen on voting the traditional way, in person.

otherwise, for God's sake, use a mail-in ballot. Don't needlessly give yourself an extra chance to catch the virus before the vaccine becomes generally available within a few months, and for the most vulnerable, within a few weeks.

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Yes, an expert rock climber might say "As long I am careful and prudent, I can safely scale this 100 foot cliff" doesn't mean that I can safely do so as well. Just because he can do so safely doesn't mean that everyone can do so. Or that he is advising everyone to give it a go.
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Evidence of Serious Election Fraud in the 2020 Election
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2023, 03:55:04 PM »
Yes, but not everyone would end up doing this "as carefully and prudently" as Dr. Fauci would.

Would all voters know the proper type of mask to use, as Dr. Fauci would?
Would all voters know how to wear such a mask properly, with minimum gaps between the face and mask, as Dr. Fauci would?
Would all voters even be able to get ahold of the type of mask that Dr. Fauci would believe to be sufficient, as I assume Dr. Fauci did?
Would all voters carry disinfectant with them so they could immediately clear their hands after exchanging ballots with others?

Dr. Fauci said it would be find for him to vote in person, which I think it would be correct. But I don't hear him saying everyone should vote in person, whether they followed the proper procedures or not, or even knew the proper procedures sufficiently or not, or had the proper mask and disinfectant or not.

I think, that if pressed on the issue, Dr. Fauci would advise most voters to only vote in person:

* if they knew what sort of mask and disinfectant to bring
* was able to get ahold of these items
* knew exactly how to use these items, particularly the mask
* were really keen on voting the traditional way, in person.

otherwise, for God's sake, use a mail-in ballot. Don't needlessly give yourself an extra chance to catch the virus before the vaccine becomes generally available within a few months, and for the most vulnerable, within a few weeks.

That is bizarre logic.  There are undoubtedly some risks from every human activity.   People going to the polls might be at risk of being struck by lightning if they leave their house to vote or be at risk of a traffic accident.  That is not justification for changing the voting laws in every state.  Fauci - who told Americans it was unsafe to do about anything else - indicated it was safe enough to vote in person.  Are we not to "listen to the science" when the science varies from a desired outcome?  As an octogenarian, Fauci found it safe enough to vote in person himself.  It was reasonably safe for others.

There was insufficient justification to use the pandemic as a pretext to change the voting laws in every state.  That was done strictly for political reasons to influence the outcome.  And the results confirm this.  The vast majority of votes that were cast using these alternative methods went to one candidate.  The changes not only allowed those who would normally have voted at the polls to do so by mail, but it increased by tens of millions the number of folks who voted.  A statistical outlier that changed the outcome of the election.  Why did tens of millions of new voters emerge in this election?  It wasn't because it was safer to vote by mail.  They didn't vote in previous election even before there was a pandemic.   Why did they vote in margins of 70-90% for the same candidate?  It was the result of ballot harvesting among young people and minority communities that was enable by the false pretext that voting in person was too risky.  That explains the statistical outliers of the 2020 election.  And it is good cause for concern. 

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Re: Evidence of Serious Election Fraud in the 2020 Election
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2023, 05:15:11 PM »

. . .They didn't vote in previous election even before there was a pandemic.   Why did they vote in margins of 70-90% for the same candidate?  It was the result of ballot harvesting among young people and minority communities that was enable by the false pretext that voting in person was too risky.  That explains the statistical outliers of the 2020 election.  And it is good cause for concern.

The voting percentages were higher in 2020 than any other Presidential election since 1900 because, feeling tired at the end of the day, having car problems, discouraged by seeing lines at their polling places, having to work late, starting to come down with a cold, having to deal with a sick child, did not prevent a person's vote from being cast, if they had already mailed their ballot in. So much for that mystery.

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Re: Evidence of Serious Election Fraud in the 2020 Election
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2023, 05:40:51 PM »
The voting percentages were higher in 2020 than any other Presidential election since 1900 because, feeling tired at the end of the day, having car problems, discouraged by seeing lines at their polling places, having to work late, starting to come down with a cold, having to deal with a sick child, did not prevent a person's vote from being cast, if they had already mailed their ballot in. So much for that mystery.

You believe that tens of millions of new votes can be attributed to voters who were too "tired" or "had car problems" that kept them from voting in prior elections?  LOL.  What a coincidence that all these tired folks voted in overwhelming numbers for the same candidate.  Suppose the Republicans had changed the voting laws in significant ways just before the election in ways that increased the typical voting pattern by tens of millions of votes almost all of which went to Trump and that was the difference in the election?  Imagine the outcry. 

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Re: Evidence of Serious Election Fraud in the 2020 Election
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2023, 12:45:33 AM »

You believe that tens of millions of new votes can be attributed to voters who were too "tired" or "had car problems" that kept them from voting in prior elections?  LOL.  What a coincidence that all these tired folks voted in overwhelming numbers for the same candidate.  Suppose the Republicans had changed the voting laws in significant ways just before the election in ways that increased the typical voting pattern by tens of millions of votes almost all of which went to Trump and that was the difference in the election?  Imagine the outcry.

Yes I do. If 100 million intend to vote in person, it's quite believable that only 80 million will vote. And some of them weren't that tired. They just decided, what the hell. You of all people should understand how easy it is to give up on Democracy.

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Re: Evidence of Serious Election Fraud in the 2020 Election
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2023, 02:10:05 PM »
Yes I do. If 100 million intend to vote in person, it's quite believable that only 80 million will vote. And some of them weren't that tired. They just decided, what the hell. You of all people should understand how easy it is to give up on Democracy.

We could have 100% voter turnout if someone filled out the ballots and cast them for people who wouldn't otherwise vote.  That is not promoting "democracy" but the opposite.  All voting should be in person absent some compelling reason like military service.  It is not a strenuous task.  Aren't you concerned that someone might be too tired to seal the envelope on their mail in ballot or get a paper cut and bleed to death?