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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Reply #232 on: March 16, 2023, 12:52:44 PM »
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I don't think so.
To be honest, I reckon this thread has run it's course.
The weight of evidence regarding CE399, as it stands, strongly supports the view that it was not the bullet found by Tomlinson in Parkland.
The evidence supporting the counter-position, the CE399 was the bullet found at Parkland, is almost non-existent.
It appears that at some point in the FBI lab in Washington, the pointy-tipped bullet Wright gave to Johnsen, becomes CE399.
Beyond that we can only speculate as to what happened, who did it and why.

Excellent work!

But whatever about the 'what' and the 'who', the answer to 'Why?' is surely logical rather than speculative..........

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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Reply #232 on: March 16, 2023, 12:52:44 PM »


Online Dan O'meara

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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Reply #233 on: March 16, 2023, 02:05:08 PM »
Excellent work!

But whatever about the 'what' and the 'who', the answer to 'Why?' is surely logical rather than speculative..........

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Thanks Alan.

It isn't an either/or situation.
Answering the question "Why was CE399 substituted/planted/introduced into the chain of custody", must be speculative because we don't have direct evidence of it, but that speculation must be logical otherwise it's meaningless.

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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Reply #234 on: March 16, 2023, 02:26:58 PM »
Thanks Alan.

It isn't an either/or situation.
Answering the question "Why was CE399 substituted/planted/introduced into the chain of custody", must be speculative because we don't have direct evidence of it, but that speculation must be logical otherwise it's meaningless.

Well, whatever adjective we want to use for the answer to the question "Why was CE399 substituted/planted/introduced into the chain of custody?", the answer itself is pretty obvious: to promote a lone-gunman scenario

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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Reply #235 on: March 16, 2023, 04:29:58 PM »
Answering the question "Why was CE399 substituted/planted/introduced into the chain of custody", must be speculative because we don't have direct evidence of it, but that speculation must be logical otherwise it's meaningless.
Logic has little to do with it.   If it did, there would have been no assassination. People do things for all sorts of strange reasons.

Rather the issue is whether the evidence fits together.  If your premise is that all the evidence is false then there is nothing to talk about.

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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Reply #236 on: March 16, 2023, 05:41:28 PM »
Logic has little to do with it.   If it did, there would have been no assassination. People do things for all sorts of strange reasons.

Rather the issue is whether the evidence fits together.  If your premise is that all the evidence is false then there is nothing to talk about.

Who said anything about all the evidence being false?

the issue is whether the evidence fits together.

No. The evidence needs to be authentic and fit together.

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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Reply #237 on: March 16, 2023, 05:52:46 PM »
Who said anything about all the evidence being false?

the issue is whether the evidence fits together.

No. The evidence needs to be authentic and fit together.
Authenticity can often be inferred from the way the evidence fits together: e.g. a witness says they saw the same thing that was independently reported by two other witnesses.

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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Reply #238 on: March 16, 2023, 05:55:09 PM »
Logic has little to do with it.   If it did, there would have been no assassination. People do things for all sorts of strange reasons.

Rather the issue is whether the evidence fits together.  If your premise is that all the evidence is false then there is nothing to talk about.

Logic has little to do with it.

I imagine most of us are aware of your disdain for Logic, without which your dead theory would never have been constructed in the first place.

If your premise is that all the evidence is false then there is nothing to talk about.

If your premise is that all the evidence [contradicting your dead theory] is false then there is nothing to talk about.
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What is the evidence that supports the view that CE399 is the bullet found at Parkland?

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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
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Re: A time to receive and give (CE399)
« Reply #239 on: March 16, 2023, 06:24:42 PM »
Authenticity can often be inferred from the way the evidence fits together: e.g. a witness says they saw the same thing that was independently reported by two other witnesses.

Authenticity can often be inferred from the way the evidence fits together

No. Falsified or manipulated evidence can also fit together. In fact false evidence would normally be shaped in such a way that it would fit together.
By your logic (if it can be called that) you would be able to consider false evidence to be authentic when it clearly isn't.

Authenticity needs to be proven by a credible chain of custody.