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Offline Joe Elliott

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Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.
« on: December 01, 2022, 12:57:43 PM »

Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.

Mexico owes its young democracy to its elections institute. The president wants to dismantle it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexico-owes-its-young-democracy-to-its-elections-institute-the-president-wants-to-dismantle-it/ar-AA14Mrk1?cvid=4c6d2d1881ec46729083cb144249c6b7

It appears that President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is Mexico's Left-Wing Trump who wants to have permanent control of Mexico's government. Why else dismantle a system that brought Democracy to Mexico? What was wrong with this system? If it ain't broke, why fix it? Because, I suspect, Obrador believes he can't permanently depend on the support of the people of Mexico. He has their support at the moment and he wants to use their support to make this permanent. Disastrous if the people of Mexico allow this to happen.

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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2022, 01:45:47 PM »
Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.

Mexico owes its young democracy to its elections institute. The president wants to dismantle it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexico-owes-its-young-democracy-to-its-elections-institute-the-president-wants-to-dismantle-it/ar-AA14Mrk1?cvid=4c6d2d1881ec46729083cb144249c6b7

It appears that President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is Mexico's Left-Wing Trump who wants to have permanent control of Mexico's government. Why else dismantle a system that brought Democracy to Mexico? What was wrong with this system? If it ain't broke, why fix it? Because, I suspect, Obrador believes he can't permanently depend on the support of the people of Mexico. He has their support at the moment and he wants to use their support to make this permanent. Disastrous if the people of Mexico allow this to happen.

Are they doing things in Mexico like arresting political opponents in predawn tactical raids, suppressing free speech, and controlling the mass media and social media as a propaganda arm of the state?  At least Mexico doesn't sponsor endless foreign wars to enrich their political establishment.   The Mexican leftists are amateurs compared to their American counterparts in undermining democracy. 

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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2022, 04:02:01 PM »
I remember the Dems and leftist media crying a river about the "Lock Her Up" chant at Trump rallies in 2016 contending that only in a banana republic does anyone suggest jailing their political opponent.  But fast forward to the last few years, and there is a relentless desire to "lock up" Trump for anything.  They have expended years of investigation looking for any possible way to derail the possibility of reelection in 2024.  Why not let the voters decide?  Why the reversal in viewpoint that "locking up" political opponents is the stuff of dictatorships and banana republics?  Suddenly it is the way to "protect Democracy" by allowing the legal system to jail politicians instead of allowing the voters to decide who wins elections.  The hypocrisy is astounding.  Trump was impeached for a phone call to Ukraine in which he suggested they investigate Hunter Biden.  It was deemed asking a foreign government to influence US elections.  But Old Joe recently went to Saudia Arbia and begged the Saudis not to cut the supply of oil until after the midterm election.  A blatant example of seeking foreign influence in an election.  And nothing. 

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Re: Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2023, 11:00:51 PM »
Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.

Mexico owes its young democracy to its elections institute. The president wants to dismantle it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexico-owes-its-young-democracy-to-its-elections-institute-the-president-wants-to-dismantle-it/ar-AA14Mrk1?cvid=4c6d2d1881ec46729083cb144249c6b7

It appears that President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is Mexico's Left-Wing Trump who wants to have permanent control of Mexico's government. Why else dismantle a system that brought Democracy to Mexico? What was wrong with this system? If it ain't broke, why fix it? Because, I suspect, Obrador believes he can't permanently depend on the support of the people of Mexico. He has their support at the moment and he wants to use their support to make this permanent. Disastrous if the people of Mexico allow this to happen.

Maybe the 6-7 million Mexicans who are living in the U.S. illegally should return to Mexico to ensure that their country does not become a dictatorship.

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2023, 02:08:00 PM »
I wonder if the President of Mexico puts classified documents in his garage or has the Chinese finance a "think tank" to pay him millions between jobs.  I'm sure glad the US doesn't have corruption and incompetence like that.

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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2023, 09:21:44 PM »
Maybe the 6-7 million Mexicans who are living in the U.S. illegally should return to Mexico to ensure that their country does not become a dictatorship.

Better yet, the hardest-core MAGA supporters should be deported to dictatorship countries where they could be happy.

The US would be a much better place if Mormons and Evangelicals were mass-deported to fundamentalist countries. But they're not vulnerable and poor like the non-documented whom Griffith sees as trash.

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2023, 12:21:18 AM »
Global Freedom Index Scores: Mexico vs Ukraine

Mexico - 60/100

Mexico has been an electoral democracy since 2000, and alternation in power between parties is routine at both the federal and state levels. However, the country suffers from severe rule of law deficits that limit full citizen enjoyment of political rights and civil liberties. Violence perpetrated by organized criminals, corruption among government officials, human rights abuses by both state and nonstate actors, and rampant impunity are among the most visible of Mexico’s many governance challenges.


Ukraine - 61/100

Ukraine has enacted a number of positive reforms since the protest-driven ouster of then president Viktor Yanukovych in 2014. However, corruption remains endemic, and the government’s initiatives to combat it have met resistance and experienced setbacks. Attacks against journalists, civil society activists, and members of minority groups are frequent, and police responses are often inadequate. Russia occupies the autonomous Ukrainian region of Crimea, which it annexed in 2014, and its military supports armed separatists in the eastern Donbas area.


United States - 83/100

The United States is a federal republic whose people benefit from a vibrant political system, a strong rule-of-law tradition, robust freedoms of expression and religious belief, and a wide array of other civil liberties. However, in recent years its democratic institutions have suffered erosion, as reflected in rising political polarization and extremism, partisan pressure on the electoral process, bias and dysfunction in the criminal justice system, harmful policies on immigration and asylum seekers, and growing disparities in wealth, economic opportunity, and political influence.

https://freedomhouse.org/country/ukraine/freedom-world/2022
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Re: Democracy in Mexico is Under Assault.
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2023, 04:13:58 PM »
Better yet, the hardest-core MAGA supporters should be deported to dictatorship countries where they could be happy.

The US would be a much better place if Mormons and Evangelicals were mass-deported to fundamentalist countries. But they're not vulnerable and poor like the non-documented whom Griffith sees as trash.

You want to mass deport people based on their religious faith?  Thankfully the US doesn't engage in that kind of bigotry.  How many "non-documented" people are trying to get into Canada?  Any?  I guess even they are not that desperate.  And, of course, Canada can talk a good game about the "poor" and "vulnerable" so long as they stay in the US and the Canadians don't have to pay for them.  "Black face" Trudeau doesn't take kindly to any outsiders who threaten his frat boy racist culture.

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