Russians Interference with the 2022 Elections.

[Jon Banks]

Russia tried to influence U.S. elections in 2022 and will do it again, nation’s top intel agency says

Russia conducted malign influence operations in the 2022 U.S. midterm elections, the U.S. intelligence community said in a new report.

Russia tried to influence U.S. elections in 2022 and will do it again, nation's top intel agency says. Russia conducted malign influence operations in the 2022 U.S. midterm elections, the U.S. intelligence community said in a new report.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/08/russia-tried-to-influence-us-elections-in-2022-and-will-do-it-again-intel-agency-says.html


Where's "the lie"? United States Intelligence issued a report stating that Russia meddled in the 2022 election.

"No evidence", you say? I just posted documented evidence below from US Intelligence stating Russia DID interfere in the 2022 election. Are you going to deny that too?

Where's your evidence to prove otherwise? I only see denials from you with zero documented evidence.     

Mr. Banks, do you know more than United States intelligence who says Russia DID meddle in the 2022 election and will continue to do so in future elections?

Intelligence analysis isn’t evidence.

Per the article you cited, they gave no specific examples or evidence. It’s very vague information.

What I find most interesting is how some think Russian trolls on social media undermine our elections more than lobbyists corrupt our politics.

I’m pretty sure that the millions that countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel spend to influence our politicians and elections is more impactful than a few dozen Russian troll accounts on social media.

[Rick Plant]

Intelligence analysis isn’t evidence.

Per the article you cited, they gave no specific examples or evidence. It’s very vague information.

What I find most interesting is how some think Russian trolls on social media undermine our elections more than lobbyists corrupt our politics.

I’m pretty sure that the millions that countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel spend to influence our politicians and elections is more impactful than a few dozen Russian troll accounts on social media.

I posted documented evidence from US Intelligence stating Russia DID interfere in the 2020 election and you post nothing except for your own denials and excuses. Hilarious!     

[Jon Banks]

I posted documented evidence from US Intelligence stating Russia DID interfere in the 2020 election and you post nothing except for your own denials and excuses. Hilarious!   

There's no evidence in the article that you shared. It's just uncorroborated claims if the article doesn't cite specific evidence.

And like I said, even if it's true that Russia continued to use social media to meddle in US politics in 2022, who cares? Do you really believe a single vote was affected by silly posts on Twitter or Facebook? Do you really believe that kind of stuff is worse than foreign governments spending millions to directly influence our politicians?

I find it absurd that we've spent the last few years obsessing over what people post on social media.

[Richard Smith]

Russia tried to influence U.S. elections in 2022 and will do it again, nation’s top intel agency says

Russia conducted malign influence operations in the 2022 U.S. midterm elections, the U.S. intelligence community said in a new report.

Russia tried to influence U.S. elections in 2022 and will do it again, nation's top intel agency says. Russia conducted malign influence operations in the 2022 U.S. midterm elections, the U.S. intelligence community said in a new report.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/08/russia-tried-to-influence-us-elections-in-2022-and-will-do-it-again-intel-agency-says.html


Where's "the lie"? United States Intelligence issued a report stating that Russia meddled in the 2022 election.

"No evidence", you say? I just posted documented evidence below from US Intelligence stating Russia DID interfere in the 2022 election. Are you going to deny that too?

Where's your evidence to prove otherwise? I only see denials from you with zero documented evidence.     

Mr. Banks, do you know more than United States intelligence who says Russia DID meddle in the 2022 election and will continue to do so in future elections?

Let's assume that Russia did attempt to meddle in the election.  Is there any evidence whatsoever that they influenced a single vote?  Contrast that situation with changing the election laws in almost every state in the months leading up to the 2020 election under false pretenses, censoring speech on social media, and covering up information that would have been harmful to Biden (or even lead to his arrest for corruption).   Which had the greater impact on the outcome?  Russian interference or American interference?

[Rick Plant]

There's no evidence in the article that you shared. It's just uncorroborated claims if the article doesn't cite specific evidence.

Well, if you bothered to have read the pdf file IN the article, you would have seen the evidence United States Intelligence officials reported that details the Russian interference in the 2022 election. Why didn't you read it?   

Russia has been interfering in elections around the world for DECADES, especially in the United States. And for you to think the Russians are magically going to stop meddling in the 2022 U.S. midterm election is laugh out loud hilarious. That's why your claim is absurd and you can't provide any evidence to support it.         

CIA has been tracking Russian interference in U.S. elections since 1982
Declassified memo shows Agency considered possibility of a Soviet “scheme” to tip the 1984 presidential race
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/jul/19/cia-russian-election-1984/


Ok, let's recap this thing:

You made the false claim that Russia "did not" interfere with the 2022 election. But you still provide zero evidence to support your false claim. All you do is deny the solid evidence I provided that proves Russia DID interfere in the 2022 election.

So I ask you again, where is your evidence to prove your false claim? All you're doing is posting your opinion. That's not factual evidence. Where is YOUR evidence to prove that Russia "didn't" meddle in the 2022 election as you falsely claim? Are you going to post this evidence or are you going to continue to post your "opinion"?         


Russia's Prigozhin admits interfering in U.S. elections
November 7, 2022
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/

I posted documented evidence of a Russian official who admitted that he meddled in the 2022 election (and previous elections) which was reported by every single respected world news organization and confirmed by US Intelligence.

Immediately, without any evidence whatsoever you claim that "It's a lie", "he was just joking", he is a "Russian troll".   

Where is your "evidence" for that false claim? You still provide nothing. All you're doing is denying and making up stuff trying to discredit factual documented evidence.


Russia tried to influence U.S. elections in 2022 and will do it again, nation’s top intel agency says
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/08/russia-tried-to-influence-us-elections-in-2022-and-will-do-it-again-intel-agency-says.html
   
Next, I posted documented evidence from the top United States Intelligence agency documenting the Russian interference in the 2022 election.

Once again, you dismiss top United States Intelligence as "vague" and "uncooberated" when they did the actual investigation. You didn't even bother to read the United States Intelligence Report on the 2022 U.S. election and Russian Interference. The pdf file is highlighted right there in the article.

So again, you make false claims and provide zero evidence to support your false claim, but then you dismiss my solid documented evidence without any evidence of your own to support your false narrative.           

And like I said, even if it's true that Russia continued to use social media to meddle in US politics in 2022, who cares? Do you really believe a single vote was affected by silly posts on Twitter or Facebook? Do you really believe that kind of stuff is worse than foreign governments spending millions to directly influence our politicians?

What do you mean "if it's true"? United States Intelligence says IT IS true that Russia interferes in United States elections and will continue to do so. Where is your evidence to prove that it's "not true" as you falsely claim?     

United States Intelligence reports determined votes were affected by Russian disinformation on the internet. Thats why Russia continues to do it.   


State Department singles out Russian troll farm while offering $10 million for information on election interference
July 28, 2022

US officials are bracing for a mix of foreign interference and domestic disinformation campaigns about the voting process as the midterm vote approaches.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/28/politics/state-department-ira-troll-farm-russia/index.html

FBI and NSA directors warn of evolving Russian interference threat ahead of US midterms

New Evidence Shows How Russia’s Election Interference Has Gotten More Brazen

Some strategies and tactics for election interference were the same as before. Russia’s trolls pretended to be American people, including political groups and candidates. They tried to sow division by targeting both the left and right with posts to foment outrage, fear, and hostility. Much of their activity seemed designed to discourage certain people from voting. And they focused on swing states.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/new-evidence-shows-how-russias-election-interference-has-gotten-more

Russian propagandists targeted African Americans to influence 2016 US election
Operatives used social media to suppress votes for Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump, new research finds
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/17/russian-propagandists-targeted-african-americans-2016-election


So yes, suppressing votes by discouraging people from voting IS worse, since it affects the outcome of certain election races. That's why Russian disinformation artists target specific election races to attack since it changes the outcome of that race. 

I find it absurd that we've spent the last few years obsessing over what people post on social media.

Like I stated above, you're only offering your "opinion" and not providing any real evidence to support your false claim of "Russia did not interfere with the 2022 election".

I've provided solid documented evidence to prove that Russia DID indeed interfere with the 2022 election. You have posted zero evidence to support your false claim "they didn't", you only continue post your opinion like you've done once again in your quote above.         

[Jon Banks]

Let's assume that Russia did attempt to meddle in the election.  Is there any evidence whatsoever that they influenced a single vote?  Contrast that situation with changing the election laws in almost every state in the months leading up to the 2020 election under false pretenses, censoring speech on social media, and covering up information that would have been harmful to Biden (or even lead to his arrest for corruption).   Which had the greater impact on the outcome?  Russian interference or American interference?

There’s no proof that Russia’s meddling via social media was effective. Many Liberal Democrats just can’t accept that Hillary lost fair and square in 2016.

[Rick Plant]

I've posted facts. Which of these indisputable facts are you taking issue with?

Sorry, you haven't posted any facts, just more debunked conspiracy theories. I take issue with everything you posted.     

FACT:  The election laws in almost every state were changed just prior to the 2020 in a way that was advantageous to Ukraine Joe under false pretenses.

So, are you really going to claim that red states or states that voted blue in 2020 that had a Republican Governor or a Republican controlled state legislature was plotting against Trump to elect Joe Biden? Now that's a real conspiracy theory.

Donald Trump and his band of joker "lawyers" tried to make these same phony claims in court in various states. Trump's own appointed judges threw out these same phony claims in the lawsuits stating "it has no merit".

Trump's own judge ruled against your false claim. So no, you did not post a "fact".         

Trump-Appointed Judge In Wisconsin Shuts Down Campaign’s Legal Argument For Why Election Was Rigged
Dec 12, 2020
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/12/12/trump-appointed-judge-in-wisconsin-shuts-down-campaigns-legal-argument-for-why-election-was-rigged/?sh=7830de6a15d9

FACT:  Even Lord Fauci confirmed it was perfectly safe for people to go to the polls.

 
You left off the part where Dr. Fauci said "as long as polling place workers and voters adhere to safety guidelines and recommendations."

In right wing districts, people refused to adhere to those safety guidelines. They refused to wear masks to stop the spread of the virus. So there was no need for someone to take the risk in getting COVID when they could easily mail in their ballot which is perfectly legal. 
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-fauci-in-person-voting/fact-check-fauci-said-there-is-no-reason-why-we-cant-vote-in-person-if-guidelines-are-followed-idUSKBN25U2BB

How was it "perfectly safe to go to the polls" when in November of 2020 the United States had MORE COVID cases than most countries had all year? That was because of the incompetence and failure of Donald Trump which is another reason why he lost the 2020 election in a blowout. And as a result, more people mailed in their ballots because of a deadly pandemic which is perfectly legal. Not sure why you're taking an issue with that.

U.S. reported more COVID-19 cases in November than most countries had all year
NOVEMBER 30, 2020
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-november-cases-united-states/

FACT:  The media censored news stories such as Dirty Hunter's laptop, bribery and widespread corrupt on the entire Biden family including the Big Guy.

 
And yet, you have no hard evidence to prove any of these conspiracy theories.

Right wingers are just angry the mainstream media didn't flood the airwaves with lies and disinformation against Biden like they did to Clinton in 2016.

Let's see, the top prosecutor in Ukraine confirmed his investigation found no wrongdoing with Hunter Biden.

Bill Barr did not appoint a special counsel in 2020 to investigate these phony claims and conspiracy theories against Biden because he knew they were bogus.

The House GOP just issued their own report stating they found no wrongdoing with Biden.

Yet, you keep pushing these same phony and bogus conspiracy theories as "facts".         

If there were anything to these fake Biden conspiracy theories, Donald Trump would have used it against Biden in 2020. What did Donnie do Instead? He threatened President Zelensky of Ukraine over the phone to manufacture a phony scandal against Joe Biden to damaging his candidacy or he wouldn't release the United States military aid to Ukraine. That's why Donnie got impeached for the first time and it's why the MAGA radical right hates President Zelensky.     

Ukraine found no evidence against Hunter Biden in case audit: former top prosecutor
JUNE 4, 2020
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-ukraine/ukraine-found-no-evidence-against-hunter-biden-in-case-audit-former-top-prosecutor-idUSKBN23B2RB

Barr Says No Need For Special Counsel For Hunter Biden Probe
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/21/948787251/barr-says-no-need-for-special-counsel-for-hunter-biden-probe-election-fraud-clai

Republicans Finally Admit They Have No Incriminating Evidence on Joe Biden
A 65-page report, a press conference, and nothing to show for it
May 10, 2023
https://newrepublic.com/post/172627/republicans-admit-no-incriminating-evidence-joe-biden

Trump’s Hold on Ukrainian Military Aid was Illegal
November 26, 2019

The illegality of the funding hold is important to the impeachment inquiry, as it adds further weight to the case that Trump abused his authority as president to pressure Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 U.S. election.
https://www.justsecurity.org/67489/trumps-hold-on-ukrainian-military-aid-was-illegal/

FACT:  There is zero evidence that the Russians changed any minds in the 2016 or 2020 elections.  None.  Talk about election denial.  Absolutely nothing in history tops the fake Russian collusion hoax after the 2016 election.

Wow!...this is an outrageous falsehood! You just falsely posted "there is zero evidence that the Russians changed any minds in the 2016 or the 2020 elections. None."

Well, our United States Intelligence has debunked your absurd claim. They have done MASSIVE investigations detailing Russians suppressed votes for Clinton and Biden.   

So no, what you posted is not a "fact", it's disinformation. United States Intelligence confirmed that the Russians influenced the 2016 election, and 2020, and 2022. Why are you defending Russian election interference?   


Russian propagandists targeted African Americans to influence 2016 US election
Operatives used social media to suppress votes for Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump, new research finds
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/17/russian-propagandists-targeted-african-americans-2016-election

Putin Authorized Russian Interference in 2020 Election
Russian Interference in 2020 Included Influencing Trump Associates, Report Says

The assessment was the intelligence community’s most comprehensive look at foreign efforts to interfere in the election.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/us/politics/election-interference-russia-2020-assessment.html


You then go on to post your usual absurd claim that I've debunked many times in various threads, "Absolutely nothing in history tops the fake Russian collusion hoax after the 2016 election."

As I've pointed out to you many times, our United States Intelligence Committee detailed in their report that there was Russian collusion in 2016 between Trump and the Russains. Russia even admitted it. Donald Trump admitted that his son Junior met with the Russians. George Papadopoulos, Trump's advisor, went to prison for lying to the FBI about meeting with Russians which is Russian collusion. Yet, you still post this same disinformation all the time. So ridiculous and it's not a "hoax" as you continue to falsely post.


US Senate report goes beyond Mueller to lay bare Trump campaign's Russia links
Bipartisan intelligence panel says that Russian who worked on Trump’s 2016 bid was career spy, amid a stunning range of contacts
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign

Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House
Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

Trump admits son met Russian for information on opponent
August 6, 2018
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45079377

Trump (Again) Admits His Son Met With Russian Lawyer To Get Dirt On Clinton
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/635860399/trump-admits-his-son-met-with-russian-lawyer-to-get-dirt-on-clinton

George Papadopoulos: Ex-Trump adviser goes to prison
November 26, 2018

Papadopoulos pleaded guilty last year to lying to the FBI about the timing of meetings with alleged go-betweens for Russia and was sentenced in September.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46347887

Again, all of this documented evidence is "Russian collusion", and yet you still falsely call it a "hoax" even after I debunked your false claim many times in here.   

If all these circumstances had occurred in the election in some other country, every reasonable person would conclude that fix was in. Putin has absolutely nothing on corruption and bias of the current American political situation. He is a rank amateur compared to Old Joe.

Ah, more Joe Biden conspiracies.

First you post that Joe Biden is an "old senile man with dementia" and now you're posting that Biden is more corrupt that murderous dictator Vladimir Putin.

Which is it? It can't be both.     

That's why all these Joe Biden accusations are more phony than a 3 dollar bill.