Why We Still Donít Have the JFK Assassination Files


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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Why We Still Donít Have the JFK Assassination Files
« Reply #72 on: November 23, 2022, 03:05:44 PM »
If RFK publicly criticized the Warren Report, it would've pretty much ended his political career.

It made no sense for him to do that unless he had a smoking gun or hard evidence of a conspiracy.

My broader point is that its telling that so many people who were close to the Warren Commission or knowledgeable of the intimate details were also not convinced that they were right that Oswald acted alone. That includes Lyndon Johnson, Hale Boggs, Richard Russell, RFK, John Connally, and possibly Gerald Ford (if some quotes attributed to him are true).

So he had no "smoking gun" or "evidence" of a conspiracy but entertained a hypothetical possibility that it happened.  In which case, his opinion is no more relevant than those that frequent this forum.

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Online John Iacoletti

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« Reply #73 on: November 23, 2022, 03:30:09 PM »
So he had no "smoking gun" or "evidence" of a conspiracy but entertained a hypothetical possibility that it happened.  In which case, his opinion is no more relevant than those that frequent this forum.

Says the guy who entertains the hypothetical possibility that Oswald travelled down 4 flights of stairs in 75 seconds without being seen or heard by any of the 12 people along the way, and calls it a ďfactĒ.

Online Jon Banks

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« Reply #74 on: November 23, 2022, 04:45:03 PM »
So he had no "smoking gun" or "evidence" of a conspiracy but entertained a hypothetical possibility that it happened.  In which case, his opinion is no more relevant than those that frequent this forum.

No matter how you try to wish it away, it's relevant that political leaders who had access to or direct knowledge of some of the secrets that are still classified today, speculated that others were involved.

Far more relevant than the less informed speculation of people on this forum.
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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #75 on: November 23, 2022, 10:29:26 PM »
No matter how you try to wish it away, it's relevant that political leaders who had access to or direct knowledge of some of the secrets that are still classified today, speculated that others were involved.

Far more relevant than the less informed speculation of people on this forum.

So now you are saying RFK has access to evidence that the rest of us do not?  And he decided not to voice his concerns regarding who was responsible for the death of his own brother?   That's a false premise and doesn't add up.  RFK may have entertained his own suspicions, but he probably knew less about the evidence in this case than most of us.  I'm sure he wasn't measuring the size of Oswald's nostrils etc.

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« Reply #76 on: November 23, 2022, 11:38:26 PM »
So now you are saying RFK has access to evidence that the rest of us do not? And he decided not to voice his concerns regarding who was responsible for the death of his own brother?   That's a false premise and doesn't add up.  RFK may have entertained his own suspicions, but he probably knew less about the evidence in this case than most of us.  I'm sure he wasn't measuring the size of Oswald's nostrils etc.

I'm confident that RFK knew things about covert operations and other issues related to the assassination that are still classified. Remember, many of the still classified files are FBI files and as attorney general, Kennedy would've had access to the FBI's secrets. And there are things that the Kennedy family still wants to be kept secret. I'm sure he also spoke to Kennedy's personal physician, George Burkley, who privately told people that there was a conspiracy.

Beyond that, maybe he knew some things about the CIA-Castro stuff and CIA-mafia stuff that has yet to be declassified.

Either way, it's absurd to think that ordinary people like us know more inside information about what was going on in 1963 than people who were in power back then and knew the context of the things we're still learning about...
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« Reply #77 on: November 24, 2022, 02:38:53 PM »
I'm confident that RFK knew things about covert operations and other issues related to the assassination that are still classified. Remember, many of the still classified files are FBI files and as attorney general, Kennedy would've had access to the FBI's secrets. And there are things that the Kennedy family still wants to be kept secret. I'm sure he also spoke to Kennedy's personal physician, George Burkley, who privately told people that there was a conspiracy.

Beyond that, maybe he knew some things about the CIA-Castro stuff and CIA-mafia stuff that has yet to be declassified.

Either way, it's absurd to think that ordinary people like us know more inside information about what was going on in 1963 than people who were in power back then and knew the context of the things we're still learning about...

I think it's fair to say that many folks here know more details about the JFK assassination than RFK.  We have had 60 years to review the evidence.   More than a few folks are compulsive on the topic to the point of being unbalanced.  Those folks have not provided a single iota of credible evidence to suggest that anyone other than Oswald was involved in the assassination.  RFK may have harbored suspicions, but his suspicions are no more valid than anyone else absent evidence.

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« Reply #78 on: November 24, 2022, 03:05:59 PM »
I think it's fair to say that many folks here know more details about the JFK assassination than RFK.  We have had 60 years to review the evidence.   More than a few folks are compulsive on the topic to the point of being unbalanced.  Those folks have not provided a single iota of credible evidence to suggest that anyone other than Oswald was involved in the assassination.  RFK may have harbored suspicions, but his suspicions are no more valid than anyone else absent evidence.

I'm sure that RFK knew of some things related to his brother's murder that are still classified.

And it's perfectly reasonable to suspect that others were involved in JFK's assassination based on the available evidence.

People who conclude that LHO acted alone cannot do so without omitting or ignoring facts that counter that assumption...

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Re: Why We Still Donít Have the JFK Assassination Files
« Reply #79 on: November 24, 2022, 07:42:48 PM »
Those folks have not provided a single iota of credible evidence to suggest that anyone other than Oswald was involved in the assassination.

Says the guy who has not provided a single iota of credible evidence to suggest that Oswald was involved in the assassination.

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