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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2018, 09:12:51 PM »
It was not the side of the head. The top of his head was blown off!

Top right or top left?

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2018, 09:14:43 PM »
Absurd.  Haven't you looked closely at the top of the head photographs which show the middle of the top of his head gone and his brain hanging out of that hole on top draping down over the hair?  This is exactly why the doctors and nurses thought the hole was in the back of the head, and its what happens when people don't examine wounds in a situation like that one.

Because doctors and nurses can't tell the difference between the top of a head and the back of a head.

Next you'll be telling us that doctors and nurses can't tell the cerebellum from the cerebrum...

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2018, 09:24:57 PM »
So all of the Parkland Personnel were wrong about the gaping hole in the right rear of the head where cerebellum was falling out of the back of JFK's head .  Where Clint Hill saw the hole blasted out of the back of JFK's head, as he said in his Warren Report Testimony . The Zapruder film shows no stopping of the Limo , but , we won't know except for those who witnessed the limo stopping and of course when the last shot blew out the back of JFK's head. All of those people who saw the Limo stopped must have all been wrong according to those who say the Limo did not stop ! 

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2018, 01:03:12 AM »
Are all of you people who bring up the Parkland hospital doctors and nurses aware of the fact that none of the doctors or nurses at Parkland examined the head wound?  Are you also aware of the fact that the doctors who saw the president all have differing opinions of where/what the wound was located?  Why do you suppose that is?  The answer is simple.  None of them did an examination of the head wound.  The only person who saw the head wound close up is Mrs. Kennedy who held her husbands head in her hands " holding the top of his head down trying to keep it [the brain] in".  You also never explain how it is that lying on his back with the back of his his head lying on the gurney, the back of the president's head is exposed?  How is it that Dr. McClleland is seeing what he says he saw--"cerebellum" as he "looked down into the wound as he stood over the president, when the back of the head isn't facing him, the top front and side are visible only.  I do not believe a word that leaves the lips of McClleland nowadays because he has jumped onto the conspiracy nutter bandwagon, and that remark regarding the "cerebellum" is impossible.  He said one thing after going to view the actual autopsy photos, then turned right around and later said something completely different.  He isn't credible.
 
Why do you ignore the words of the one person who did see the wound up close during the 5 minute ride to Parkland hospital and during all the time she held him after the arrival at the hospital and wouldn't allow anyone to see the condition of her husband, until Clint Hill took off his coat and placed it over him?  I know why, but I want you to tell me!  I also want you to to state for the record, why the autopsy photos of the head show the top of the head blasted off?  Coincidence that they just happen to confirm what Mrs. Kennedy described to Theodore white within 7 days of the assassination? 
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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2018, 01:15:15 AM »
Are all of you people who bring up the Parkland hospital doctors and nurses aware of the fact that none of the doctors or nurses at Parkland examined the head wound?  Are you also aware of the fact that the doctors who saw the president all have differing opinions of where/what the wound was located?  Why do you suppose that is?  The answer is simple.  None of them did an examination of the head wound.  The only person who saw the head wound close up is Mrs. Kennedy who held her husbands head in her hands " holding the top of his head down trying to keep it [the brain] in".  You also never explain how it is that lying on his back with the back of his his head lying on the gurney, the back of the president's head is exposed?  How is it that Dr. McClleland is seeing what he says he saw--"cerebellum" as he "looked down into the wound as he stood over the president, when the back of the head isn't facing him, the top front and side are visible only.  I do not believe a word that leaves the lips of McClleland nowadays because he has jumped onto the conspiracy nutter bandwagon, and that remark regarding the "cerebellum" is impossible.  He said one thing after going to view the actual autopsy photos, then turned right around and later said something completely different.  He isn't credible.
 
Why do you ignore the words of the one person who did see the wound up close during the 5 minute ride to Parkland hospital and during all the time she held him after the arrival at the hospital and wouldn't allow anyone to see the condition of her husband, until Clint Hill took off his coat and placed it over him?  I know why, but I want you to tell me!  I also want you to to state for the record, why the autopsy photos of the head show the top of the head blasted off?  Coincidence that they just happen to confirm what Mrs. Kennedy described to Theodore white within 7 days of the assassination?

 If true, I guess 1 out of 47 is significant I thought it was your belief that all witnesses of JFK's skull immediately after the shooting were of no use

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2018, 02:32:15 AM »
Top right or top left?


  The TOP, John. Look at the photographs! Not left, not right, the top.  The missing skull extends partly towards the back of the top of the head, as well as a little off center toward the right top of the head, but it is the top, not the right side or the back of the skull, the top of the skull.

  https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol1/html/HSCA_Vol1_0128b.htm

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2018, 02:33:57 AM »
If true, I guess 1 out of 47 is significant I thought it was your belief that all witnesses of JFK's skull immediately after the shooting were of no use


I do not know where you came up with that, but I have never, ever said anything like that. 

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2018, 03:24:27 AM »
Absurd.  Haven't you looked closely at the top of the head photographs which show the middle of the top of his head gone and his brain hanging out of that hole on top draping down over the hair?  This is exactly why the doctors and nurses thought the hole was in the back of the head, and its what happens when people don't examine wounds in a situation like that one.  You see someones brain hanging out of their head, and the amount of hair president Kennedy had, its going to be a little hard to tell exactly where the wound was. Even Clint Hill said that!

       You are referring to photographs which were illegally obtained. This means their bona fides would therefore be subject to question.

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2018, 03:34:21 AM »


Because doctors and nurses can't tell the difference between the top of a head and the back of a head.

Next you'll be telling us that doctors and nurses can't tell the cerebellum from the cerebrum...



Heavily distracted witnesses make poor witnesses.


Are doctors good at telling the top of the head, or the right front of the head from the right rearward part of the head? Of telling the difference between the cerebellum and the cerebrum? Ordinarily, yes.

Are people good at spotting the ‘gorilla’ when they see a man in a gorilla suit walk across the frame and beat his chest? Ordinarily, yes.



But when witnesses are heavily distracted, it’s a different story. When it doesn’t matter if the large head wound is on the top of the head or the right front part of the head, or the right rear part of the head, when it doesn’t matter if they are seeing the cerebellum or the cerebrum. When they are concentrating on what they have been trained to concentrate on:

with a patient with a major head wound, with a very week heartbeat, with very weak breathing, they need to:

**** make an emergency transfusion of blood.

**** hook up an IV to introduce other critical medicine.

**** consult with his doctor (if available, which he was) to see if any special treatment was recommended for this particular patient

**** check, and check again, and again, and again, the heartbeat and breathing, so they can know, as soon as possible, if any disparate action needs to be done immediately, like opening up the chest.

And not get distracted making unimportant observations, which can wait until the most critical tasks are completed and the patient is, at least, somewhat stablished. Until then, they are no more likely to notice the type of brain matter showing than they are to notice that one of the nurses is wearing a gorilla mask.

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2018, 06:47:03 AM »

Heavily distracted witnesses make poor witnesses.


Are doctors good at telling the top of the head, or the right front of the head from the right rearward part of the head? Of telling the difference between the cerebellum and the cerebrum? Ordinarily, yes.

Are people good at spotting the ‘gorilla’ when they see a man in a gorilla suit walk across the frame and beat his chest? Ordinarily, yes.



But when witnesses are heavily distracted, it’s a different story. When it doesn’t matter if the large head wound is on the top of the head or the right front part of the head, or the right rear part of the head, when it doesn’t matter if they are seeing the cerebellum or the cerebrum. When they are concentrating on what they have been trained to concentrate on:

with a patient with a major head wound, with a very week heartbeat, with very weak breathing, they need to:

**** make an emergency transfusion of blood.

**** hook up an IV to introduce other critical medicine.

**** consult with his doctor (if available, which he was) to see if any special treatment was recommended for this particular patient

**** check, and check again, and again, and again, the heartbeat and breathing, so they can know, as soon as possible, if any disparate action needs to be done immediately, like opening up the chest.

And not get distracted making unimportant observations, which can wait until the most critical tasks are completed and the patient is, at least, somewhat stablished. Until then, they are no more likely to notice the type of brain matter showing than they are to notice that one of the nurses is wearing a gorilla mask.

 OK Joe now all you have to do is take on 17 Bethesda witnesses with your continued insights

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