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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: "at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building..."
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2022, 09:36:56 PM »
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Lee Didn't know what officer Baker was doing....He ASSUMED that was the search which we all know started about 12:50 ....

Lee saw Baker and assumed that is what Fritz was referring to....

But there is no way Mr. Oswald would react to a cop challenging him in the lunchroom in the way later described by Officer Baker & Mr. Truly by going downstairs and just having lunch-----------UNLESS there was no doubt in his mind that the P. Parade hadn't yet arrived.

Everything changes once we factor in what Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report reveals: Mr. Oswald told Fritz he-----AFTER his visit to the lunchroom, and AFTER returning to one to eat lunch-----"went outside to watch P. Parade".

So IF Mr. Oswald really did describe a cop coming into the lunchroom, then he was revealing to his interrogators a PRE-MOTORCADE police (or 'police') presence in the building. If the cop was legit, then DPD are in for the most grievous embarrassment. If the cop was not legit, then................
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Re: "at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building..."
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Re: "at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building..."
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2022, 09:41:25 PM »
On the Saturday, Chief Jesse Curry (as quoted in the New York Times) told reporters that Mr. Oswald was seen by an officer in the lunchroom WITH OTHER EMPLOYEES

In September '64, Mr. Truly and Officer Baker are brought in to give statements that have one key purpose: to establish that Mr. Oswald was the only person in the lunchroom at the time of the encounter. A 'rumor' that a lunchroom encounter was in fact witnessed by some person or persons other than the three protagonists needs to be laid to rest............

What if there WAS a lunchroom encounter, but it happened BEFORE the motorcade's arrival?

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Re: "at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building..."
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2022, 09:45:26 PM »
What if there WAS a lunchroom encounter, but it happened BEFORE the motorcade's arrival?

It would mean that Agent Bookhout's account does not, strictly speaking, tell a lie, but has been carefully worded so as to lend a false impression of TIMEFRAME:

“Oswald stated that on November 22 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers [PRE-MOTORCADE], he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-Cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there.

Mr. Truly was present [ALREADY IN THE LUNCHROOM] and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and [ON HIS OWN] continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employee’s lunch room. He thereafter went outside [TO WATCH THE P. PARADE] and [AFTER THE SHOTS RANG OUT LEFT THE STEPS AND] stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelley [BY THE RAILROAD YARDS].”
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Re: "at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building..."
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Re: "at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building..."
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2022, 09:48:05 PM »
On this scenario,

"[T]he time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers" refers NOT to what Mr. Oswald must have known would be the open, hours-long POST-SHOOTING search of the building, BUT to what he clearly understood to have been a PRE-MOTORCADE sweep of the building

"[A]t the time of the search..." is a really strange way to give the timeframe if it refers to post-shooting
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Re: "at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building..."
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2022, 09:55:49 PM »
Now I can't find it...somewhere in testimony or affidavit or deposition was a mention by I believe a cop that stated that as they [or he] was going up the stairs during the search...that a couple of guys were coming down. Any clue?

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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2022, 09:57:33 PM »
Now I can't find it...somewhere in testimony or affidavit or deposition was a mention by I believe a cop that stated that as they [or he] was going up the stairs during the search...that a couple of guys were coming down. Any clue?

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Re: "at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building..."
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2022, 10:07:22 PM »
There are five pages of Captain Will Fritz's notes. It has been convincingly shown that pages 2-5 are slavishly derived from Agent Bookhout's official interrogation reports.

However! Page 1 is the odd one out, inasmuch as it does NOT follow the order and (in all respects) substance of the corresponding Bookhout report.

Could it be that Captain Fritz actually wrote the following words down DURING the first interrogation session-------------



------------but didn't bother taking notes in subsequent sessions?

If so (big if!), then combining these words with Agent Hosty's draft interrogation report---------------



---------------would give us an officer coming into the second-floor lunchroom PRIOR TO the motorcade

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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2022, 10:21:27 PM »
Anyone who believes there was a conspiracy, and Mr. Oswald was not the sixth-floor shooter, but that it would have been left totally to chance that the sixth floor would be clear of employees at the time of the motorcade's arrival in Dealey Plaza--------------needs their head examined.

Remember! Mr. Bonnie Ray Williams recalled an informal arrangement amongst sixth-floor crew that they would come back upstairs to watch the motorcade from the sixth floor. The perfect vantage point, but it never happened....................... An AMAZING, you might almost say: INCREDIBLE, stroke of luck for the plotters!

No, the sixth floor would have been secured. It would therefore make perfect sense that any male manual workers still in the building a few minutes before the motorcade would be found and told (by 'law enforcement') not to go up to the sixth floor. Mr. Oswald in the second-floor lunchroom would have fallen into this category. His manual-workman clothes would have led to his being singled out by the 'cop'.
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