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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #176 on: September 28, 2022, 03:19:26 PM »
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Martin didn’t say “couldn’t”, Strawman “Smith”. Are you ever going to stop with the diversions and give us your evidence that Oswald actually did what you claimed?

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« Reply #176 on: September 28, 2022, 03:19:26 PM »


Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #177 on: September 28, 2022, 03:45:53 PM »
You have concluded that Oswald COULDN'T COME DOWN THE STAIRS unnoticed.  HE COULDN"T HAVE DONE THAT (i.e. come down the stairs) according to you.  Got it.  But you won't accept the only possible implication of this conclusion that Oswald COULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON THE 6th FLOOR and thus COULDN'T HAVE ASSASSINATED JFK.  Can you follow that simple distinction?

"If Oswald had come down the stairs within 75 seconds after the shots, he would have been seen by Dorothy Garner, who was standing next to the stairs on the 4th floor.
She heard Adams and Styles going down on the stairs and saw Baker and Truly come up. Somewhere inbetween these two events Oswald would have be passing the 4th floor. The reason Garner did not see him is simple; he didn't come down the stairs."

What part of "Get back to me when you have actual evidence for your little fairytales!" did you not understand?

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« Reply #178 on: September 28, 2022, 06:01:22 PM »
What part of "Get back to me when you have actual evidence for your little fairytales!" did you not understand?

Run Martin run.

  "If Oswald had come down the stairs within 75 seconds after the shots, he would have been seen by Dorothy Garner, who was standing next to the stairs on the 4th floor.
She heard Adams and Styles going down on the stairs and saw Baker and Truly come up. Somewhere inbetween these two events Oswald would have be passing the 4th floor. The reason Garner did not see him is simple; he didn't come down the stairs."

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« Reply #178 on: September 28, 2022, 06:01:22 PM »


Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #179 on: September 28, 2022, 06:39:06 PM »
Run Martin run.

  "If Oswald had come down the stairs within 75 seconds after the shots, he would have been seen by Dorothy Garner, who was standing next to the stairs on the 4th floor.
She heard Adams and Styles going down on the stairs and saw Baker and Truly come up. Somewhere inbetween these two events Oswald would have be passing the 4th floor. The reason Garner did not see him is simple; he didn't come down the stairs."

Quick, get help. Richard is stuck in a continuous loop and he can't find his way out, back to reality.

I'll just take this pathetic infantile deflection as confirmation that you actually can not produce even a shred of evidence for any of your claims about Oswald;

- bringing the rifle to the TSBD and hiding it there
- being on the 6th floor at 12:30, when the shots were fired
- actually shooting at Kennedy
- going down the stairs to the 2nd floor unnotices, within roughly 75 seconds after the last shot.

If anybody is running, it's you. 
« Last Edit: September 28, 2022, 08:30:53 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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« Reply #180 on: September 29, 2022, 01:47:27 PM »
Quick, get help. Richard is stuck in a continuous loop and he can't find his way out, back to reality.

I'll just take this pathetic infantile deflection as confirmation that you actually can not produce even a shred of evidence for any of your claims about Oswald;

- bringing the rifle to the TSBD and hiding it there
- being on the 6th floor at 12:30, when the shots were fired
- actually shooting at Kennedy
- going down the stairs to the 2nd floor unnotices, within roughly 75 seconds after the last shot.

If anybody is running, it's you.

Run, Martin, run.  More deflecting to other issues.  You concluded, based on your analysis of the evidence, that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs."    If he "didn't come down the stairs," then he couldn't have been on the 6th floor as the stairs were the ONLY way for him to have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom in time for the Baker encounter.  Thus, the only implication that can be drawn from YOUR conclusion, is that Oswald is not the assassin.  Why can't you just acknowledge that is your position?  Why struggle so mightily against your own conclusion?  I can't understand why you just don't say that you believe Oswald is innocent and that you are a CTer.   It's very humorous. 

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« Reply #180 on: September 29, 2022, 01:47:27 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #181 on: September 29, 2022, 02:11:50 PM »
What “other issues”? This whole sorry and obsessive exercise in trying to put words in Martin’s mouth is what the deflection is. Anything but having to actually defend your own claims.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2022, 02:12:30 PM by John Iacoletti »

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« Reply #182 on: September 29, 2022, 02:20:24 PM »
I've quoted (literally) Martin's exact words but I'm somehow putting words in his mouth.  The contrarian mind is astounding.  Here it is again (notice the quotes):

"If Oswald had come down the stairs within 75 seconds after the shots, he would have been seen by Dorothy Garner, who was standing next to the stairs on the 4th floor.
She heard Adams and Styles going down on the stairs and saw Baker and Truly come up. Somewhere in between these two events Oswald would have be passing the 4th floor. The reason Garner did not see him is simple; he didn't come down the stairs."

Note again:  "[Oswald] didn't come down the stairs."

If Oswald (notice the quotes) "didn't come down the stairs" then he couldn't have got from the 6th floor to the 2nd floor in the known timeframe to be the assassin and be there for the Baker encounter.  There is simply no other way for him to have reached the 2nd floor if he "didn't come down the stairs."  The only implication that can be drawn from this is that either Martin is wrong in his analysis of this event or Oswald is not the assassin. 

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« Reply #182 on: September 29, 2022, 02:20:24 PM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #183 on: September 29, 2022, 02:24:25 PM »
Run, Martin, run.  More deflecting to other issues.  You concluded, based on your analysis of the evidence, that Oswald "didn't come down the stairs."    If he "didn't come down the stairs," then he couldn't have been on the 6th floor as the stairs were the ONLY way for him to have reached the 2nd floor lunchroom in time for the Baker encounter.  Thus, the only implication that can be drawn from YOUR conclusion, is that Oswald is not the assassin.  Why can't you just acknowledge that is your position?  Why struggle so mightily against your own conclusion?  I can't understand why you just don't say that you believe Oswald is innocent and that you are a CTer.   It's very humorous.

Clearly you believe that a CT is something to be shunned.   And that's exactly what the government has promoted.  The government wants anybody who rejects the official US government position, that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone nut assassin, to be scorned and mocked.

But at this late date, and with all of the information that has surfaced , that position is no longer tenable ....  And only a damned fool would continue to try to promote it.