Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2022, 03:26:44 PM »
My point is that it wasn’t necessary for him to see Norman and Jarman outside in order to deduce that they would [most likely, if you insist] have been in view from the door of the domino room.

My point is that this deduction makes no sense whatsoever.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2022, 03:28:52 PM »
It's been explained to you.  You are simply asking the same question over and over.  The answer must by necessity contain a certain amount of logical inference.  Rejecting or ignoring that explanation on the basis that only Oswald can know the answer for why he did certain things is just going around in circles.  Oswald was a leftist political nut with an anti-American bent.  He would fit in nicely in the current America.  He had obvious reasons to target a right winger like Walker.  In addition, he had access to Walker because he also lived in Dallas.  Oswald would not likely have tracked Walker down had he lived somewhere else.  Similarly, JFK came to Dallas.  His motorcade literally drove right by Oswald's place of employment.  A golden opportunity.  As President, JFK was the literal and symbolic head of the country that Oswald detested.  Assassinating him was a revolutionary political act against that system.  It has nothing to do with JFK himself.  The act of a political nut job willing to die for the cause.

Your made-up, fanciful stories don’t “explain” anything.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2022, 03:45:10 PM »
A class contrarian rabbit hole scenario.  They ask a question which must, by necessity, include a certain amount of logical inference from the facts to answer.  Like why would Oswald target Walker, a right winger, and JFK, a Dem.  Of course, only Oswald would know the answer with absolute certainty.  And he was a nut job meaning there isn't a tidy, logical explanation for his every action.  Everyone else must use what was known about Oswald and these events to formulate a logical inference.  When the answer is provided it is rejected as the produce of "story telling" or "speculation" but without any substantive rebuttal as to why they think it is wrong.  LOL.  And round and round we go.  The contrarian kooks don't like the answer to their question which necessitates drawing inferences from the facts and dismiss any answer on the basis of not having an Ouija board to contact Oswald.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2022, 03:50:56 PM »
A class contrarian rabbit hole scenario.  They ask a question which must, by necessity, include a certain amount of logical inference from the facts to answer.  Like why would Oswald target Walker, a right winger, and JFK, a Dem.  Of course, only Oswald would know the answer with absolute certainty.  And he was a nut job meaning there isn't a tidy, logical explanation for his every action.  Everyone else must use what was known about Oswald and these events to formulate a logical inference.  When the answer is provided it is rejected as the produce of "story telling" or "speculation" but without any substantive rebuttal as to why they think it is wrong.  LOL.  And round and round we go.  The contrarian kooks don't like the answer to their question which necessitates drawing inferences from the facts and dismiss any answer on the basis of not having an Ouija board to contact Oswald.


a certain amount of logical inference from the facts

Before you make any kind of inference you first need to establish that the so-called "facts" are in fact facts. You just believe whatever they have told you about Oswald, regardless of it being true or not.

You are not making any kind of "logical inference". Instead you are making stuff up based on what you (often mistakenly) think you know.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2022, 04:15:51 PM »
A class contrarian rabbit hole scenario.  They ask a question which must, by necessity, include a certain amount of logical inference from the facts to answer.  Like why would Oswald target Walker, a right winger, and JFK, a Dem.  Of course, only Oswald would know the answer with absolute certainty.  And he was a nut job meaning there isn't a tidy, logical explanation for his every action.  Everyone else must use what was known about Oswald and these events to formulate a logical inference.  When the answer is provided it is rejected as the produce of "story telling" or "speculation" but without any substantive rebuttal as to why they think it is wrong.  LOL.  And round and round we go.  The contrarian kooks don't like the answer to their question which necessitates drawing inferences from the facts and dismiss any answer on the basis of not having an Ouija board to contact Oswald.




Everyone else must use what was known about Oswald and these events to formulate a logical inference.  When the answer is provided it is rejected as the produce of "story telling" or "speculation" but without any substantive rebuttal as to why they think it is wrong.


I call it “holding for Hux”, they will “tool” with you as long as you let them.  Nothing that tends to incriminate their idol makes any sense to them. But, believing that everyone except their idol lied, and that all of the incriminating evidence is “highly questionable”, or outright fake, makes perfect sense to them. It’s more than simple confirmation bias. It’s insanity personified.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2022, 04:16:39 PM »
There’s a difference between a logical inference and assuming something is true and then inventing a story out of whole cloth to “explain” it.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2022, 04:21:59 PM »
I call it “holding for Hux”, they will “tool” with you as long as you let them.  Nothing that tends to incriminate their idol makes any sense to them. But, believing that everyone except their idol lied, and that all of the incriminating evidence is “highly questionable”, or outright fake, makes perfect sense to them. It’s more than simple confirmation bias. It’s insanity personified.

As soon as you start invoking this “idol” nonsense, you’ve already lost the debate. Nobody believes that “everybody lied” — that’s a strawman. The evidence (real evidence, not nonsense like “he preferred Dr. Pepper”) isn’t all that incriminating, which is why WC evangelists are forced to use rhetoric and misrepresentation.
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