Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963

[Charles Collins]

If he had no idea they were ever near the domino room and only heard them on the fifth floor, it would be incredibly stupid to claim that he saw them on the first floor near the time of the shooting, because they’d easily refute that.

Do you recognize the voice of any person whose name you do not know?

Only one of them claimed to hear that, and it was long after the fact. But hearing some mechanical noise is very different from discerning individual voices.

That’s not true either.

If he had no idea they were ever near the domino room and only heard them on the fifth floor, it would be incredibly stupid to claim that he saw them on the first floor near the time of the shooting, because they’d easily refute that.


You missed the point. He hears the elevator moving and stopping before it gets to the sixth floor. Seconds later he hears Norman and Jarman just below him on the fifth floor. He deduces that they just took the elevator up to the fifth floor. And the elevators are within sight of the domino room door.



Do you recognize the voice of any person whose name you do not know?


If I was recently employed at a facility with 70 employees, there would be many people there I didn’t know the names of. However, I believe that I could recognize voices of some of the ones I had had contact with and which I didn’t yet know their names and place them with the correct faces.



Only one of them claimed to hear that, and it was long after the fact. But hearing some mechanical noise is very different from discerning individual voices.

If I remember correctly, the WC did a demonstration that showed they could be heard. And consider there were open windows on both floors (~10-feet apart in elevation) directly over/under each other. And the people concerned were right at the windows. Given the conditions, I think it would be difficult not to hear Norman and Jarman.

[Charles Collins]

The door to the west elevator is on the far west side by the staircase and the overhead door.

There is simply no evidence that they used the stairs or the overhead door to get to the elevator. There is evidence that they didn’t use either.

[Martin Weidmann]

There is simply no evidence that they used the stairs or the overhead door to get to the elevator. There is evidence that they didn’t use either.

There is evidence that they didn’t use either.

And what exactly might that evidence be?

[Jerry Freeman]

You are easily confused.  We are discussing two different points in time.  Right after the assassination, there could only be speculation that the two crimes were related due to their similarity, uniqueness, and proximity in time and place.  An investigation then occurred that confirmed the fact.  Oswald confessed to his own wife.  The fact that you don't like this is meaningless as to the facts.

You are constantly confused....if indeed one can actually call it confusion. 

We are discussing two different points in time.

You 'discuss' nothing... only ramble on about stuff only you could imagine. 

...their similarity, uniqueness, and proximity in time and place.

You contradict yourself always. Different times? Yeah 7 months apart. What is similar about a pot shot into a crackpot generals house and the slaying of a man who's brother had said general committed to a nut house?

[Walt Cakebread]

So you are admitting Oswald fired the shot at Walker.  Got it!  LOL.  And your explanation about the JFK assassination is that - even though Oswald was apparently in on the plot to frame himself - he sat in the lunchroom where anyone could have seen him and provide him an unwanted alibi while someone else fired the shot.  LOL.  Why didn't they just instruct Oswald to fire a shot and miss JFK if they were ordering him around?  Do you realize how idiotic and bizarre what you are suggesting is?  That's a rhetorical question.

even though Oswald was apparently in on the plot to frame himself - he sat in the lunchroom where anyone could have seen him and provide him an unwanted alibi while someone else fired the shot.



Perhaps you've overlooked the fact that Lee could easily have ducked out of sight when he was in that 1st floor lunchroom. And I believe that he may have ducked into the toilet / shower when Jarman and Norman walked by the Domino Room  to insure that they did not see him.  Lee may have said that he was sitting in the 1st floor lunchroom but he was prepared to duck into the toilet/ shower if anybody approached the Domino Room. 

[John Iacoletti]

There is simply no evidence that they used the stairs or the overhead door to get to the elevator. There is evidence that they didn’t use either.

You missed the point. How would this hypothetical Oswald on the sixth floor know how they got to the elevator, even if he saw them outside, heard the elevator, and recognized their voices below him? Pretty silly to make up a sighting at the domino room without knowing they went by the domino room.

[Jerry Organ]

You missed the point. How would this hypothetical Oswald on the sixth floor know how they got to the elevator, even if he saw them outside, heard the elevator, and recognized their voices below him? Pretty silly to make up a sighting at the domino room without knowing they went by the domino room.

Not a problem since Oswald hadn't committed to saying which way the two men entered. If the highly-unlikely scenarios that you're grasping at came to light, Oswald could easily amend his "ghost alibi" to say he saw the men while on his way to the second floor, after being in the Domino Room.

Now if Oswald really did see Jarman and Norman go by the lunchroom, why didn't he give specifics?

The first-floor lunchroom was about the only option Oswald had for an alibi. He couldn't say he spent ten minutes on the second-floor buying a Coke or in the main area trying to get change. He's not normally allowed on the third and fourth floors, and would have to know someone not from the warehouse to be at a south-facing window. He couldn't say he was on the fifth floor because he knew people were there. Of course Oswald's not going to say the sixth floor. Maybe the seventh, but then he has even further to go to make it to the second-floor encounter.

Oswald couldn't claim to be out standing on the front entrance or the sidewalk, knowing he wouldn't have been seen.

[John Iacoletti]

Now if Oswald really did see Jarman and Norman go by the lunchroom, why didn't he give specifics?

You don’t know that he didn’t.