Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963


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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2022, 05:43:26 PM »
You might have something with the "lunchroom alibi" thing, except we don't know for sure that Jarman and Norman entered the building at 12:27. They said it was more like 12:20 to 12:25. The two men were familiar with the area; if, at 12:24, they heard "Just crossing Ervay Street" on the police radio, they would have known that the motorcade was on Main. Or someone in the crowd could have said so. If Oswald was in the lunchroom at 12:25 and saw Jarman and Norman, he would have time to ascend the stairs.

Fritz's notes on this are not specific. Also, if Jarman and Norman had gone to, say, to the SW corner of the fifth floor rather then the SE corner, that would help the idea that Oswald was in the lunchroom and saw the two men go by. But the men two men showed up beneath the SN window affording Oswald the opportunity to know that Jarman and Norman were together during lunch (as Oswald might have seen them together regularly previous to Nov. 22nd). Entering the building from the front or rear means passing through the first floor (to access the stairs or elevators; they could cross the second floor from the front but that route was probably not for warehouse workers). Crossing the first floor means they could have been visible to someone (depending on where they were seated or standing) in the first-floor lunchroom.

Not hard to rationalize without actually witnessing it. Oswald could have put two-and-two together. It was an ad hoc after-thought "ghost alibi". Now, if Oswald had really seen the two men cross the first floor, he would have expanded on what he saw, such as the two men entered through the rear. That would have been the clincher. But guessing that would have been taking a huge risk.

Then one has to wonder why Oswald--who was so politically-minded, subscribed to Time, read newspapers and borrowed books about politics--didn't bother to join his coworkers outside to watch the Presidential motorcade so by (didn't Marina say Lee liked JFK?). Then you expect people to disregard the "long bulky package" Oswald took to work that morning, his prints on boxes at the Sniper's Nest and on the rifle, his behavior after the assassination, in which he was in flight murdering a policeman and trying to hide in a movie theater.

we don't know for sure that Jarman and Norman entered the building at 12:27. They said it was more like 12:20 to 12:25.

Take a refresher course in reading comprehension .... They said that they were at the front of the building at 12:25 when they decided to go up to the 5th floor to watch the parade.   They would have walked by the lunchroom at about 12:27....  And Lee saw them walk by.

 If Oswald was in the lunchroom at 12:25 and saw Jarman and Norman, he would have time to ascend the stairs.

Maybe possible ...except... Jarman and Norman said they arrived on the 5th floor at 12:28 .... Therefore they would have walked by the lunchroom at about 12:27 .

Your desperation is hanging out a country mile Mr. O......  Why don't you heed your own advise and simply admit you've made a mistake.    That would be a big first step in enlightenment.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2022, 05:55:47 PM »
So angry.  Have you claimed on this board or not that Oswald fired the shots at Walker and JFK but intentionally missed as part of what he thought was plan to fake an assassination attempt as a pretext to get him into Cuba?  That fantasy cannot be reconciled with conflicting fantasy that Oswald was in the lunchroom and couldn't have pulled the trigger.   If you are going to be a kook, at least keep your fantasies straight so they don't conflict.

Have you claimed on this board or not that Oswald fired the shots at Walker and JFK but intentionally missed as part of what he thought was plan to fake an assassination attempt as a pretext to get him into Cuba?


The answer to your question is ....NO!..... Your ability to comprehend the written word is subpar .....

A) Lee did not fire a shot at Walker.....He fired a bullet through Walker's window.  That was a hoax that was intended to fool Castro's spies into believing that Lee Oswald was a friend of Castro's who had attempted to shoot one of Castro's most vocal foes.

B) He was involved in the same basic ruse when evidence (spent shells and rifle) was left on the sixth floor as mute evidence that he had fired at JFK.       

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2022, 06:07:36 PM »
Have you claimed on this board or not that Oswald fired the shots at Walker and JFK but intentionally missed as part of what he thought was plan to fake an assassination attempt as a pretext to get him into Cuba?


The answer to your question is ....NO!..... Your ability to comprehend the written word is subpar .....

A) Lee did not fire a shot at Walker.....He fired a bullet through Walker's window.  That was a hoax that was intended to fool Castro's spies into believing that Lee Oswald was a friend of Castro's who had attempted to shoot one of Castro's most vocal foes.

B) He was involved in the same basic ruse when evidence (spent shells and rifle) was left on the sixth floor as mute evidence that he had fired at JFK.       

So you are admitting Oswald fired the shot at Walker.  Got it!  LOL.  And your explanation about the JFK assassination is that - even though Oswald was apparently in on the plot to frame himself - he sat in the lunchroom where anyone could have seen him and provide him an unwanted alibi while someone else fired the shot.  LOL.  Why didn't they just instruct Oswald to fire a shot and miss JFK if they were ordering him around?  Do you realize how idiotic and bizarre what you are suggesting is?  That's a rhetorical question.

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2022, 06:52:42 PM »
How could Oswald “guess” that Norman and Jarman would ever have been in a place where he could have seen them from the domino room, even if he knew they were together?

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2022, 06:58:59 PM »
An investigation then occurred that confirmed the fact.  Oswald confessed to his own wife.

“Confirmed”. LOL
“Fact”. LOL.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2022, 07:09:34 PM »
If LHO was in the sniper’s nest (I believe that he was, others can believe whatever they want to believe), I think he would have been aware of the elevator noise when Norman and Jarman took it to the fifth floor. I believe that LHO would have been able to hear Norman and Jarman when they stationed themselves on the fifth floor, just below the sniper’s nest. If Norman and Jarman said anything (they probably did) I believe that LHO could have recognized their voices and known who it was just below. LHO would know that in order to access the elevator on the first floor Norman and Jarman would have been within sight of the door to the domino room. In my opinion, LHO didn’t need to see the two of them outside (nor did he need to be in the domino room at the time) in order to know these things.

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2022, 07:20:43 PM »
So you are admitting Oswald fired the shot at Walker.  Got it!  LOL.

That’s always been Walt’s story. It you really “got it”, you would have gotten it years ago. But you are a one-way propaganda fountain.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2022, 07:32:51 PM »
So you are admitting Oswald fired the shot at Walker.  Got it!  LOL.  And your explanation about the JFK assassination is that - even though Oswald was apparently in on the plot to frame himself - he sat in the lunchroom where anyone could have seen him and provide him an unwanted alibi while someone else fired the shot.  LOL.  Why didn't they just instruct Oswald to fire a shot and miss JFK if they were ordering him around?  Do you realize how idiotic and bizarre what you are suggesting is?  That's a rhetorical question.

So you are admitting Oswald fired the shot at Walker.

DUH!.....  Do you believe that Walker was a name for the window pane?    Lee fired a bullet through the WINDOW PANE.   Which was a ruse that was intended to make it appear that he had tried to shoot Walker.   

Lee was NOT in on the plot to murder JFK..... In fact he had suspected that someone ( Walker's gang) might try to assassinate JFK while he was playing the role of an assassin who had ATTEMPTED  to shoot JFK.   He reported to the FBI that he had caught wind of a plot by a  " MILITANT REVOLUTIONARY GROUP" who might attempt to assassinate JFK on his proposed trip to Texas.   His contact with the FBI Warren DeBrueys told him not to worry because they already knew about the plot and had everything under control.   Lee the sucker patsy didn't know that he was reporting to one of the key conspirators.

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