The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman


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Offline Jerry Freeman

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The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman
« on: August 21, 2022, 01:09:33 AM »
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Mr. BALL. Now, on November22. 1963, did you have an assignment?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Where?
Mr. WHITE. On the triple underpass.
Mr. BALL. And were you there with someone?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Who?
Mr. WHITE. J. W. Foster.
Mr. BALL. Where were you?
Mr. WHITE. Standing on the west side of the overpass.
Mr. BALL. On the west side of the overpass?
Mr. WHITE. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Where were you with reference to Elm. Main or Commerce as they go underneath the overpass?
Mr. WHITE. Approximately at the north curb of Main Street.
Mr. BALL. Approximately the north curb of Main on the corner of the north curb of Main? That would be--
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. On the west side of the overpass?
Mr. WHITE. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you see the President's car come into sight?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir; first time I saw it it has passed, passed under the triple underpass.
Mr. BALL. You were too far away to see it, were you?
Mr. WHITE. There was a freight train traveling. There was a train passing between the location I was standing and the area from which the procession was traveling, and-a big long freight train, and I did not see it.
Mr. BALL. You didn't see the procession?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Before the train went by, did you see some railroad personnel over on the-would it be the--
Mr. WHITE. East side?
Mr. BALL. East side of the overpass?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. How many people?
Mr. WHITE. About 10, approximately. I didn't count them.
Mr. BALL. Did you hear any shots?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Didn't?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. First time you saw the President's car it was going underneath?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What did you do after that?
Mr. WHITE. As soon as the train passed I went over and on the northwest side of the Depository Building. On the northwest side of the book store up there with the rest of the officers and after about 30 minutes they told me to go out and work traffic at Main and Houston, and I stood out there and worked traffic.
Mr. BALL. All right, now, you heard no sound of no rifle fire or anything?
Mr. WHITE. No, sir.
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The problem I have with Patrolman White's testimony [aside from his apparent lack of interest in viewing the motorcade]...
is that in viewing the photograph taken at the precise moment of his declared observation, I fail to see the cop at his stated location...
or this freight train that he mentions passing at that exact moment.
Odd that White never mentioned that he was given any information about the incident...just only told to go work traffic.


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The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman
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Online Gerry Down

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Re: The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2022, 01:51:40 AM »
I never noticed that big "Old Charter" advert before in the background. "Old Charter" is a whiskey apparently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Charter

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Re: The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2022, 02:23:55 AM »
https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/white_jc.htm
The problem I have with Patrolman White's testimony [aside from his apparent lack of interest in viewing the motorcade]...
is that in viewing the photograph taken at the precise moment of his declared observation, I fail to see the cop at his stated location...
or this freight train that he mentions passing at that exact moment.
Odd that White never mentioned that he was given any information about the incident...just only told to go work traffic.



The guy doesn't exactly sound like Eliot Ness since he didn't even hear the shots.  I don't really see why any of this is important, though.  Is there some point you are trying to make or just a curiosity?

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Re: The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman
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Re: The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2022, 04:20:32 AM »
That small  white thing on the south side of Main is White's white cap -- he is not seen on the north side of Main in any photos or footage.

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Re: The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2022, 04:41:26 AM »
That small  white thing on the south side of Main is White's white cap...
As I posted...I fail to see the cop at his stated location.
or this freight train that he mentions passing at that exact moment.
So how do you know that the item mentioned is White's cap and what would he be doing way over there?
[clicking the picture enlarges it fully]

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Re: The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2022, 05:20:23 AM »
As I posted...I fail to see the cop at his stated location.
or this freight train that he mentions passing at that exact moment.
So how do you know that the item mentioned is White's cap and what would he be doing way over there?
[clicking the picture enlarges it fully]
Thats what i said. He aint at his stated location.
And there was no train at about 12:30.
The worst witness might have been Jacki, followed by Mrs Connally -- & followed by all of the cops.

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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2022, 06:13:40 AM »
The guy doesn't exactly sound like Eliot Ness since he didn't even hear the shots.  I don't really see why any of this is important, though.  Is there some point you are trying to make...?
Elementary Watson..You bring the point even more in focus.
Patrolman White [submitted] that [outside of his imaginary freight train]- like Sgt Schultz...
He saw nothing...He heard nothing...Witnessed nothing at all...Appears to not even be there!
He offered absolutely zilch to the case so why did they even bother to take his testimony?
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Re: The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2022, 01:50:55 PM »
The very top of some train cars can be seen between the Old Charter billboard and the TSBD. I have seen an image that I believe was taken from the old courthouse building which shows this train from the other side. But I donít remember who took the image. It might be a part of the Patsy Paschall film or someone else who was in that building. It might be the last couple of (white?) train cars still on the north end of the overpass that can be seen in the photo that Jerry posted, but it is difficult to say for sure. And it is possible that J.C. White is blocked from the camera by the top portion of the support between Elm Street and Main Street. Why was he interviewed? Possibly to find out what he had seen and heard.

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