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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #552 on: September 01, 2022, 04:50:36 PM »
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Don't you think Oswald might know the time and place of the assassination if he was the assassin?  LOL.   Just making up a flimsy story that he was somewhere else is not an alibi.  No one saw him there.  There was no "corroboration" (a word CTers love).  Oswald has no alibi.  He has a baseless claim that can be judged against the evidence left on the 6th floor including his rifle, fired bullet casings from his rifle, and his prints on the SN boxes.  His explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor?  None.  Instead he lies and denies owning any rifle. 

Conclusion:  GUILTY.

Just making up a flimsy story that he was somewhere else is not an alibi.  No one saw him there.

A far better story would be that he was on the 6th floor where nobody saw him either, right?

His explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor?  None. Instead he lies and denies owning any rifle.   

You expect him to provide an explanation when he denies that he owns a rifle? Now that's funny   :D

Conclusion:   IDIOT
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #553 on: September 01, 2022, 10:32:05 PM »
Where specifically is it on the first floor that Eddie Piper said he went during the shots. He testified that he went to where they make coffee to see what time it was. Where exactly is this area located on the first floor?


Okay, I found out where this area is located by reading the WC testimony of Troy Eugene West. It is about the middle of the west wall of the first floor. It is where the wrapping machine that West used to wrap the packages is located.

So, I have another question for anyone who subscribes to the idea that LHO was in the domino room when the shots were fired.

In order to get to the second floor break room where Truly and Baker encountered him, LHO would have had to leave the domino room, and walk across the first floor to the stairs. This would have had to occur immediately after the shots were fired in order for the timing to work out. However, both Eddie Piper and Troy Eugene West were on the first floor, but neither one saw LHO do this trek across the first floor at that time. West was at his work station, and Piper was on his way toward West’s work station. Is there some legitimate reason why these two men wouldn’t have seen LHO walking across the first floor at this time? Just asking…

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #554 on: September 01, 2022, 10:45:19 PM »
Don't you think Oswald might know the time and place of the assassination if he was the assassin?  LOL.   Just making up a flimsy story that he was somewhere else is not an alibi.  No one saw him there.  There was no "corroboration" (a word CTers love).  Oswald has no alibi.  He has a baseless claim that can be judged against the evidence left on the 6th floor including his rifle, fired bullet casings from his rifle, and his prints on the SN boxes.  His explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor?  None.  Instead he lies and denies owning any rifle. 

Conclusion:  GUILTY.

Don't you think Oswald might know the time and place of the assassination if he was the assassin?

But he wasn't the assassin.....When Fritz asked him where he was when the president passed by.  He said that he was in he 1st floor lunchroom when JFK passed by the TSBD.  And just a couple of minutes prior to JFK passing by he saw Junior Jarman and Harold Norman walk by the lunchroom as he sat there eating his lunch.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #555 on: September 01, 2022, 10:54:18 PM »
CONCLUSION: SMIRKY
 

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #556 on: September 01, 2022, 11:13:45 PM »

Okay, I found out where this area is located by reading the WC testimony of Troy Eugene West. It is about the middle of the west wall of the first floor. It is where the wrapping machine that West used to wrap the packages is located.

So, I have another question for anyone who subscribes to the idea that LHO was in the domino room when the shots were fired.

In order to get to the second floor break room where Truly and Baker encountered him, LHO would have had to leave the domino room, and walk across the first floor to the stairs. This would have had to occur immediately after the shots were fired in order for the timing to work out. However, both Eddie Piper and Troy Eugene West were on the first floor, but neither one saw LHO do this trek across the first floor at that time. West was at his work station, and Piper was on his way toward West’s work station. Is there some legitimate reason why these two men wouldn’t have seen LHO walking across the first floor at this time? Just asking…

Simply because neither Piper nor West recalled seeing Lee Oswald walk across the 1st floor from the Domino room to the stairs doesn't preclude the fact that Lee did walk from the Domino room to the stairs.... It's entirely possible that Lee could have walked across the room and the sounds of the gunshots distracted Piper and West and the  the routine event of a person walking across the room did not enter their memory banks.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #557 on: September 01, 2022, 11:24:15 PM »
Simply because neither Piper nor West recalled seeing Lee Oswald walk across the 1st floor from the Domino room to the stairs doesn't preclude the fact that Lee did walk from the Domino room to the stairs.... It's entirely possible that Lee could have walked across the room and the sounds of the gunshots distracted Piper and West and the  the routine event of a person walking across the room did not enter their memory banks.

Yet Garner appears to immediately lost interest in the still-unfolding aftermath outside and was eye-locked on the backstairs. Piper and West, who didn't see as much of the assassination as Garner, aren't supposed to see towards the backstairs.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #558 on: September 01, 2022, 11:30:47 PM »

Okay, I found out where this area is located by reading the WC testimony of Troy Eugene West. It is about the middle of the west wall of the first floor. It is where the wrapping machine that West used to wrap the packages is located.

So, I have another question for anyone who subscribes to the idea that LHO was in the domino room when the shots were fired.

In order to get to the second floor break room where Truly and Baker encountered him, LHO would have had to leave the domino room, and walk across the first floor to the stairs. This would have had to occur immediately after the shots were fired in order for the timing to work out. However, both Eddie Piper and Troy Eugene West were on the first floor, but neither one saw LHO do this trek across the first floor at that time. West was at his work station, and Piper was on his way toward West’s work station. Is there some legitimate reason why these two men wouldn’t have seen LHO walking across the first floor at this time? Just asking…

Is there some legitimate reason why these two men wouldn’t have seen LHO walking across the first floor at this time?

The distance between the Domino room and the stairs isn't all that far and it would not have taken long to walk from one side to the other. Piper and West were some distance away and photographs of the first floor show wrapping tables and what else between them and the elevators. West said he saw nobody, which means he also did not see Adams and Styles and/or Lovelady and Shelley (if they entered when the WC claimed they did). Perhaps they simply were not paying attention to what was going on near the elevators.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #559 on: September 01, 2022, 11:35:09 PM »
Yet Garner appears to immediately lost interest in the still-unfolding aftermath outside and was eye-locked on the backstairs. Piper and West, who didn't see as much of the assassination as Garner, aren't supposed to see towards the backstairs.

So you believe that Piper and West would have had to have remembered  seeing Lee Oswald walk across the back of the room?   Why could they not have forgot seeing him?