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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #512 on: August 24, 2022, 07:52:26 PM »
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Oswald had plenty of time to place the rifle where it was found and make his way to the lunchroom encounter.  But, as I tried to explain, whatever effort you think was necessary to construct this "hiding" place for the rifle could have been before the assassination to hide the bag/rifle there that morning.  All Oswald had to do afterward is return to that place put the rifle back into his hiding location.  An act that might take him 5 seconds.

“Could have been”
“Might take him”

LOL

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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #513 on: August 24, 2022, 07:55:31 PM »
Pssssst.... Mr "Smith" apparently you're ignorant of the fact that there was a new floor being installed on the sixth floor.....  If Lee had hid the rifle as you believe then he would have run the risk of the rifle being found by the men who were installing the new floor.

LOL.  If anything, the clutter on the 6th floor would assist in hiding the bag.  No one would have found a rifle since it was hidden in a bag.  There was some risk inherent in assassinating the president.  For Oswald, that included bringing the rifle to the TSBD and hiding it somewhere that morning.  No matter where he stashed his bag/rifle there was some chance of discovery.  That risk would not be limited to the 6th floor as you stupidly suggest.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #514 on: August 24, 2022, 08:02:07 PM »
Like “Richard” has any evidence that any rifle was ever hidden in any bag.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #515 on: August 24, 2022, 08:19:25 PM »
Like “Richard” has any evidence that any rifle was ever hidden in any bag.

If anything, the clutter on the 6th floor would assist in hiding the bag.  No one would have found a rifle since it was hidden in a bag.  There was some risk inherent in assassinating the president.  For Oswald, that included bringing the rifle to the TSBD and hiding it somewhere that morning.  No matter where he stashed his bag/rifle there was some chance of discovery.  That risk would not be limited to the 6th floor as you stupidly suggest.

Mr "Smith's" reply is simply another attempt to prop up the official LBJ approved story, and divert attention away from the fact that Lee Oswald said that he saw Jarman and Norman walk by as he was sitting in the Domino Room at 12:27.

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« Reply #516 on: August 24, 2022, 08:28:21 PM »
"Hidden beneath the pallet"?

Yes that's what Seymour Weitzman said....  Weitzman said that he had his face down on the floor and he was shining his flashlight beneath the pallet when he spotted the rifle lying on the floor.

Sure, Weitzman's going to plant his face on the oily dirty floor and shine his breadbox-size searchlight into the opening of a pallet.

The pallet openings run east/west, so here's the only openings available to Weitzman:



Weitzman can't possibly see to where the rifle is depicted in the Crime Lab photos.



This photo shows the top of the cartons that were on Pallet "C" in the foreground (which photographer Studebaker was on) and the rifle in-situ to the north (top of the picture).

   "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

 Weitzman was in retail, so the term "on the floor" could mean the open area of a store.

    "Yes, sir; this is taken the opposite side the flat I was looking under."

    "Boone was looking the top side; I was looking under the flat. We
     were looking over everything. I was behind this section of books."

Notice Weitzman says "flat" and not "pallet". In others words, he was looking along the lower sides of the stacked cartons. Weitzman testified: "I said, 'There it is' and he [Boone] started hollering, 'We got it.' It was covered with boxes." That doesn't sound like a rifle hidden under the wooden boards of a pallet.

Look at the arrows in Weitzman Exhibits E and F:



Mr. BALL - Would you mind making a mark there with a pen?
     That is on F. Draw on Exhibit F, draw an arrow. The arrow
     in ink on F shows the location?
Mr. WEITZMAN - Down on the floor.
Mr. BALL - Shows the location of the gun on the floor?
Mr. WEITZMAN - Yes.

Mr. BALL - Take E here and make a mark on E as to the
     location of the place where the gun was found.
Mr. WEITZMAN - Same area.
Mr. BALL - The same area and the arrow marks the place
     where the gun was found?
Mr. WEITZMAN - Yes, sir.

The arrow points away from the pallets and Weitzman again says it was on the floor, not beneath a pallet.

What about Eugene Boone? He testified the rifle was "stuffed down between two rows of boxes with another box or so pulled over the top of it. And I hollered that the rifle was here." Shown one of the Studebaker in-situ photos, Boones testified:

Mr. BALL - This shows the rifle as you saw it, does it?
Mr. BOONE - That is right. Then you could kneel down over
    here and see that it had a scope, a telescopic sight on it,
    by looking down underneath the boxes.

Boone doesn't say the rifle was hidden in a pallet, visible through one of the end openings. Here's where Boone located the rifle and it is away from the pallets.


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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #517 on: August 24, 2022, 09:14:17 PM »
There is no point — got it. You just invoke “Patton gang” as if it means something.

It might to the Gang of 4.
After all, they're ones who confessed:

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #518 on: August 24, 2022, 09:27:36 PM »
Thanks again for another useless display of “creativity”.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #519 on: August 24, 2022, 09:42:00 PM »
Thanks again for another useless display of “creativity”.

Thanks so much for your always-useful input.
No, really.