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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #504 on: August 24, 2022, 06:20:16 PM »
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Oswald's rifle was found on the 6th floor, fired bullet casings from his rifle were found by the window, witnesses did see a rifle pointed from that window at the moment of the assassination (i.e. 12:30).

Oswald's rifle was found on the 6th floor,    Ok Granted.....  WHEN was it hidden beneath the pallet ??

"Hidden beneath the pallet"?  ::)

Never mind that Day and Studebaker said the rifle as found was as it appeared in Studebaker's high-red Crime Lab photos. That Studebaker himself was filmed taking the photos. That one of the first to spot the rifle agreed with Studebaker's in-situ photo. Nope, you have a cherrypick you can wordspin.

Over at the other Forum, there's a revealing post where JFK Assassination Loons have come out of the closet with their belief that the World Trade towers were brought down by controlled explosions.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #505 on: August 24, 2022, 06:22:25 PM »
As a bonus, I'll give you actual speculation

What do you mean “bonus”? The whole thing was speculation.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #506 on: August 24, 2022, 06:59:21 PM »

When seems obvious.  As Oswald boogied for the stairs to get off the floor.  Oswald's rifle was on the floor from which a shooter assassinated JFK with a rifle at 12:30. Fired bullet casings from Oswald's rifle were found by the window from which witnesses confirm they saw a rifle at the moment of the assassination.  That rifle was found hidden on the 6th floor. Oswald fled the scene down the stairs near the location where the rifle was left.  We don't have to consult Sherlock Holmes here to connect the dots. 

As a bonus, I'll give you actual speculation and excite Martin to take us down the rabbit hole.  After Oswald learned of the motorcade route sometime that week, he scouted the TSBD for a location that afford the best combination of shooting location and seclusion to commit the act.  The 6th floor window was ideal due to the boxes surrounding that window, view down Elm, and it was out of sight of the elevator/stairs.  He might have had an alternative if it that turned out to not be feasible for some reason on the day of the assassination.  Maybe on the 7th floor.  Once he picks a shooting location, he decides on a good place to hide the rifle on that floor.  He creates or finds such a place on the 6th floor sometime that week.   When he brings his bag/rifle to work on 11.22 he heads directly to that location and stashes the rifle.  He can retrieve it on the floor from which he intends to commit the act.   He walks around with his clipboard on the 6th floor after noon giving him the appearance of having a job-related purpose for being there should he encounter anyone on the floor.  At some point after noon, likely before BRW arrives on the floor, he puts his clipboard down and retrieves the bag.  The location of the clipboard, therefore, provides some insight as to where he hid the rifle that morning.  He carries the bag to the SN, takes out the rifle, and does whatever assembly is required while he waits.  After the shooting, he stashes the rifle in the same place he hid it that morning.  Not taking him more than a few seconds.

Are your eyes brown Mr "Smith"?    I would guess that they are, because you're so full of s--t.

That rifle was found hidden on the 6th floor.

You are correct in stating that the rifle was hidden.....It was well hidden, and it was only after the police obtained powerful flashlights and moved some boxes that concealed it that it was found.    That rifle most certainly was NOT hastily jammed in between boxes of books with the entire rear half of the rifle exposed.   

The point is:.... If Lee had been the assassin who was encountered by Baker and Truly in the second floor lunchroom less than two minutes after the FIRST shot was fired, then he would not have had enough time to HIDE  the rifle as you've said.

But It is a FACT (verified by photos) of detective Day picking up the rifle FROM THE FLOOR , that the rifle was well hidden.   And since Lee would not have had enough time to hide the rifle AFTER the shots were fired.... IF he hid the rifle, then he would have to have hid it BEFORE the shots were fired.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #508 on: August 24, 2022, 07:19:02 PM »
"Hidden beneath the pallet"?  ::)

Never mind that Day and Studebaker said the rifle as found was as it appeared in Studebaker's high-red Crime Lab photos. That Studebaker himself was filmed taking the photos. That one of the first to spot the rifle agreed with Studebaker's in-situ photo. Nope, you have a cherrypick you can wordspin.

Over at the other Forum, there's a revealing post where JFK Assassination Loons have come out of the closet with their belief that the World Trade towers were brought down by controlled explosions.

"Hidden beneath the pallet"?

Yes that's what Seymour Weitzman said....  Weitzman said that he had his face down on the floor and he was shining his flashlight beneath the pallet when he spotted the rifle lying on the floor.


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« Reply #508 on: August 24, 2022, 07:19:02 PM »


Online Richard Smith

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #509 on: August 24, 2022, 07:44:43 PM »
Are your eyes brown Mr "Smith"?    I would guess that they are, because you're so full of s--t.

That rifle was found hidden on the 6th floor.

You are correct in stating that the rifle was hidden.....It was well hidden, and it was only after the police obtained powerful flashlights and moved some boxes that concealed it that it was found.    That rifle most certainly was NOT hastily jammed in between boxes of books with the entire rear half of the rifle exposed.   

The point is:.... If Lee had been the assassin who was encountered by Baker and Truly in the second floor lunchroom less than two minutes after the FIRST shot was fired, then he would not have had enough time to HIDE  the rifle as you've said.

But It is a FACT (verified by photos) of detective Day picking up the rifle FROM THE FLOOR , that the rifle was well hidden.   And since Lee would not have had enough time to hide the rifle AFTER the shots were fired.... IF he hid the rifle, then he would have to have hid it BEFORE the shots were fired.

Oswald had plenty of time to place the rifle where it was found and make his way to the lunchroom encounter.  But, as I tried to explain, whatever effort you think was necessary to construct this "hiding" place for the rifle could have been before the assassination to hide the bag/rifle there that morning.  All Oswald had to do afterward is return to that place put the rifle back into his hiding location.  An act that might take him 5 seconds.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #510 on: August 24, 2022, 07:50:04 PM »
You go first

There is no point — got it. You just invoke “Patton gang” as if it means something.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #511 on: August 24, 2022, 07:51:56 PM »
Oswald had plenty of time to place the rifle where it was found and make his way to the lunchroom encounter.  But, as I tried to explain, whatever effort you think was necessary to construct this "hiding" place for the rifle could have been before the assassination to hide the bag/rifle there that morning.  All Oswald had to do afterward is return to that place put the rifle back into his hiding location.  An act that might take him 5 seconds.

Pssssst.... Mr "Smith" apparently you're ignorant of the fact that there was a new floor being installed on the sixth floor.....  If Lee had hid the rifle as you believe then he would have run the risk of the rifle being found by the men who were installing the new floor.