A Rock Solid Alibi.....

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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #300 on: August 16, 2022, 07:53:49 PM »
  BS: False and untrue followed by incorrect and distorted.
Martin Weidmann provided that specific witness statement and Mr Smith wants to take credit for his move.
Here is what I actually stated based on logic---

LOL.  You falsely and baselessly claimed:  "Only a team with radio communication would be able to relay the actual accurate progress of the motorcade."  When I noted that a witness in Dealey Plaza indicated that he could hear the progress of the motorcade repeated over the police radios, you went into hysterics claiming that was a lie and asking me to prove it.  I then posted the witness testimony that makes that claim.  I'm not even sure what you are babbling about here.  You have noted nothing to call into question that the police were not accurately reporting the progress of the motorcade.  And, of course, you ignore that events such as these are often running behind schedule.  It wouldn't take Nostradamus to figure that out.  And even if Oswald had no clue where the motorcade was, he had eyes and ears.  The motorcade wouldn't roar past Dealey Plaza before he aware of its approach.  This is a ridiculous trip down the rabbit hole.

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« Reply #301 on: August 16, 2022, 08:00:15 PM »

And, of course, the motorcade was the top news story that day in Dallas and was widely covered on broadcast TV and radio.

Sure, it was.... there just wasn't any live minute by minute coverage.

More rabbit hole nonsense.  Why would it have to be minute to minute?  The arrival and motorcade departure time from Love Field was covered.  Most of the delay occurred with JFK pausing to shake hands with the crowd.  That would have been known via local broadcasts.  The route and approximate timeframe were published.  The police radios in DP were announcing the progress of the motorcade.  It would be expected to be a few minutes later than anticipated.  Oswald had eyes and ears.  Another witness indicated that he could hear the progress of the motorcade through Dallas.  You could hear the roar of the crowd and noise as the motorcade approached.  And EVEN if Oswald had no idea when the motorcade would be there, nothing about that precludes him from being the assassin.
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« Reply #302 on: August 16, 2022, 09:02:14 PM »
More rabbit hole nonsense.  Why would it have to be minute to minute?  The arrival and motorcade departure time from Love Field was covered.  Most of the delay occurred with JFK pausing to shake hands with the crowd.  That would have been known via local broadcasts.  The route and approximate timeframe were published.  The police radios in DP were announcing the progress of the motorcade.  It would be expected to be a few minutes later than anticipated.  Oswald had eyes and ears.  Another witness indicated that he could hear the progress of the motorcade through Dallas.  You could hear the roar of the crowd and noise as the motorcade approached.  And EVEN if Oswald had no idea when the motorcade would be there, nothing about that precludes him from being the assassin.
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« Reply #303 on: August 16, 2022, 09:27:31 PM »
More rabbit hole nonsense.  Why would it have to be minute to minute?  The arrival and motorcade departure time from Love Field was covered.  Most of the delay occurred with JFK pausing to shake hands with the crowd.  That would have been known via local broadcasts.  The route and approximate timeframe were published.  The police radios in DP were announcing the progress of the motorcade.  It would be expected to be a few minutes later than anticipated.  Oswald had eyes and ears.  Another witness indicated that he could hear the progress of the motorcade through Dallas.  You could hear the roar of the crowd and noise as the motorcade approached.  And EVEN if Oswald had no idea when the motorcade would be there, nothing about that precludes him from being the assassin.

More rabbit hole nonsense.  Why would it have to be minute to minute?

Have it your way; there was absolutely no live coverage on radio or television of the motorcade. None.

Most of the delay occurred with JFK pausing to shake hands with the crowd.  That would have been known via local broadcasts.

Except for the fact there were no such live broadcasts.

The police radios in DP were announcing the progress of the motorcade.  It would be expected to be a few minutes later than anticipated.  Oswald had eyes and ears.

Yes he did and he must have had super powers as well, if he could hear a radio broadcast on a police motorbike passing by for 6 floors up at the TSBD. 

And EVEN if Oswald had no idea when the motorcade would be there, nothing about that precludes him from being the assassin.

It also doesn't place him on the 6th floor.... Bonnie Ray Williams was up there until about 12:20 / 12:25 and he saw or heard nobody.
The motorcade was due to arrive at the Trade Mart at 12:30 and was delayed by some 15 minutes. Yet, somehow, Oswald, who could not know of the delay, manages to get to the 6th floor, without being seen, some 10 minutes after the motorcade had been scheduled to pass by and still gets there on time to actually see it pass by. Boy, he really did have super powers, didn't he?   :D

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« Reply #304 on: August 17, 2022, 12:28:58 AM »
Mr. Belin.
Now, Mrs. Reid, you left lunch about what time?
Mrs. Reid.
Well, I left, I ate my lunch hurriedly, I wasn't watching the time but I wanted to be sure of getting out on the streets in time for the parade before he got there, and I called my husband, who works at the records building, and they had a radio in their office and they were listening as the parade progressed and he told me they were running about 10 minutes late.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #305 on: August 17, 2022, 12:52:07 AM »
Mr. Belin.
Now, Mrs. Reid, you left lunch about what time?
Mrs. Reid.
Well, I left, I ate my lunch hurriedly, I wasn't watching the time but I wanted to be sure of getting out on the streets in time for the parade before he got there, and I called my husband, who works at the records building, and they had a radio in their office and they were listening as the parade progressed and he told me they were running about 10 minutes late.

Her husband worked in the nearby records building and very well might have been listening to the DPD radio channel two broadcasts.

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« Reply #306 on: August 17, 2022, 12:58:59 AM »
Her husband worked in the nearby records building and very well might have been listening to the DPD radio channel two broadcasts.

Well, that must be it, because there were no radio stations broadcasting live to provide details of the motorcade.

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #307 on: August 17, 2022, 01:02:35 AM »
Well, that must be it, because there were no radio stations broadcasting live to provide details of the motorcade.

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #308 on: August 17, 2022, 01:08:47 AM »
Hmmmm indeed, Mr O'Meara. I guess this nukes Mr Collins' claim that "No one to my knowledge has confirmed or corroborated the mystery suspect that you so desperately want to believe in, no one."

We await Mr Collins' 'explanation': Euins wasn't too long out of elementary school......................  :D

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #309 on: August 17, 2022, 01:24:49 AM »
More rabbit hole nonsense.  Why would it have to be minute to minute?

Have it your way; there was absolutely no live coverage on radio or television of the motorcade. None.

Most of the delay occurred with JFK pausing to shake hands with the crowd.  That would have been known via local broadcasts.

Except for the fact there were no such live broadcasts.

The police radios in DP were announcing the progress of the motorcade.  It would be expected to be a few minutes later than anticipated.  Oswald had eyes and ears.

Yes he did and he must have had super powers as well, if he could hear a radio broadcast on a police motorbike passing by for 6 floors up at the TSBD. 

And EVEN if Oswald had no idea when the motorcade would be there, nothing about that precludes him from being the assassin.

It also doesn't place him on the 6th floor.... Bonnie Ray Williams was up there until about 12:20 / 12:25 and he saw or heard nobody.
The motorcade was due to arrive at the Trade Mart at 12:30 and was delayed by some 15 minutes. Yet, somehow, Oswald, who could not know of the delay, manages to get to the 6th floor, without being seen, some 10 minutes after the motorcade had been scheduled to pass by and still gets there on time to actually see it pass by. Boy, he really did have super powers, didn't he?   :D

Bonnie Ray Williams was up there until about 12:20 / 12:25 and he saw or heard nobody.
_ Williams: The books at the time were stacked so high. I could see only in the path that I was standing-as I remember, I could not possibly see anything to the east side of the building.

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh3/pdf/WH3_Williams.pdf

IIRC, BR also mentioned other times that he might have headed down to the 5th, like 12:10, 12:15
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