A Rock Solid Alibi.....

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #290 on: August 16, 2022, 02:28:16 AM »
The progress of the motorcade was being reported in real time over the broadcast and police radios.
Prove it. Yes ...for once in your life cite proof of what you claim. I will provide the sources---


Give us the time stamps there. I only hear music and commercials until the shooting is reported.


Same there just usual police racket until all hell breaks loose.

Otherwise stop making stuff up...it's embarrassing.

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« Reply #290 on: August 16, 2022, 02:28:16 AM »

Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #291 on: August 16, 2022, 02:44:03 PM »
Prove it. Yes ...for once in your life cite proof of what you claim. I will provide the sources---


Give us the time stamps there. I only hear music and commercials until the shooting is reported.


Same there just usual police racket until all hell breaks loose.

Otherwise stop making stuff up...it's embarrassing.

Mr. SPECTER - When, after you first observed him did you have a conversation about him with your wife?
Mr. ROWLAND - Right afterwards. There was--just before I observed him there was a police motorcycle parked just on the street, not in front of us, just a little past us, and the radio was on it giving the details of the motorcade, where it was positioned, and right after the time I noticed him and when my wife was pointing this other thing to me, I don't remember what that was, the dispatcher came on and gave the position of the motorcade as being on Cedar Springs. This would be in the area of Turtle Creek, down in that area.
I can't remember the street's name but I know where it is at. And this was the position of the motorcade and it was about 15 or 16 after 12.

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« Reply #291 on: August 16, 2022, 02:44:03 PM »

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #292 on: August 16, 2022, 03:29:58 PM »
Mr. SPECTER - When, after you first observed him did you have a conversation about him with your wife?
Mr. ROWLAND - Right afterwards. There was--just before I observed him there was a police motorcycle parked just on the street, not in front of us, just a little past us, and the radio was on it giving the details of the motorcade, where it was positioned, and right after the time I noticed him and when my wife was pointing this other thing to me, I don't remember what that was, the dispatcher came on and gave the position of the motorcade as being on Cedar Springs. This would be in the area of Turtle Creek, down in that area.
I can't remember the street's name but I know where it is at. And this was the position of the motorcade and it was about 15 or 16 after 12.


So, this communication must be on the DPD radio recordings. Where is it?

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #293 on: August 16, 2022, 03:46:00 PM »
So, this communication must be on the DPD radio recordings. Where is it?

No idea not having searched them for this information.  Have you?  Jerry made the baseless claim that no one could possibly have known that the motorcade was running behind schedule.  Of course, most such events do run a few minutes late.  I simply cited the fact that a witness in Dealey Plaza (one often cited by CTers) also indicated that the progress of the motorcade could be heard over the police radios.  Jerry was apparently unaware of this fact since he went into hysterics suggesting that I had made this up.  I then provided the specific witness statement that I had made reference (and which Jerry apparently was unaware of). 

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Online John Iacoletti

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« Reply #294 on: August 16, 2022, 05:13:16 PM »
“Richard” must have forgotten that he also claimed the motorcade progress was being announced over broadcast radio.

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« Reply #295 on: August 16, 2022, 05:54:01 PM »
We are playing whack a mole again.   The original claim was that it was not possible to know the location/timing of the motorcade as it made its way to Dealey Plaza.  Then it was deemed a lie to suggest that there was reporting of the progress of the motorcade (as you might expect so that those responsible for security had a head's up as it approached their location). The witness testimony indicates that the motorcade was being reported over the police radio and reports of its progress could be heard in Dealey Plaza as it approached.  And, of course, the motorcade was the top news story that day in Dallas and was widely covered on broadcast TV and radio.  In addition, the crowd and motorcade noise were audible as the motorcade progressed through the city.  You could hear it approaching.   There was nothing impossible about anticipating the arrival of the motorcade in Dealey Plaza or knowing that it would be a few minutes behind schedule (as most such events are).  And even if this baseless claim had any validity (i.e. there would be no way for Oswald to know the exact time the motorcade would pass the building) that does nothing to preclude him from still being the assassin.  Instead down the rabbit hole we go.

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« Reply #295 on: August 16, 2022, 05:54:01 PM »

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #296 on: August 16, 2022, 06:16:49 PM »
Once again, “Richard” gets caught out in a lie and then whines about it instead of being honest.


The progress of the motorcade was being reported in real time over the broadcast and police radios.

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« Reply #296 on: August 16, 2022, 06:16:49 PM »

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« Reply #297 on: August 16, 2022, 07:14:23 PM »
Jerry made the baseless claim that no one could possibly have known that the motorcade was running behind schedule.  Of course, most such events do run a few minutes late. 
  BS: False and untrue followed by incorrect and distorted.
Martin Weidmann provided that specific witness statement and Mr Smith wants to take credit for his move.
Here is what I actually stated based on logic---

Also...how would a snipers' nest shooter [who had no such information about the delay] know when to occupy their position?
The newspapers having also published the agenda...the motorcade should then have been through Dealey Plaza at perhaps between 11:50-12:10ish---allowing 5-10 minutes to arrive at the Trade Mart parking lot and JFK to have time to arrive at the podium.
Only a team with radio communication would be able to relay the actual accurate progress of the motorcade.

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« Reply #297 on: August 16, 2022, 07:14:23 PM »

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« Reply #298 on: August 16, 2022, 07:48:37 PM »
No idea not having searched them for this information.  Have you?  Jerry made the baseless claim that no one could possibly have known that the motorcade was running behind schedule.  Of course, most such events do run a few minutes late.  I simply cited the fact that a witness in Dealey Plaza (one often cited by CTers) also indicated that the progress of the motorcade could be heard over the police radios.  Jerry was apparently unaware of this fact since he went into hysterics suggesting that I had made this up.  I then provided the specific witness statement that I had made reference (and which Jerry apparently was unaware of).

No idea not having searched them for this information.  Have you?

Says the lazy contrarian. No I haven't searched for it because Jerry asked the information from you. It seems however that as per usual you don't (can't or want to) back up your claims with actual evidence.

I then provided the specific witness statement

Yes, you did but without providing the proof that what the witness said was actually true. How very gullible of you!

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« Reply #298 on: August 16, 2022, 07:48:37 PM »

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #299 on: August 16, 2022, 07:50:31 PM »
We are playing whack a mole again.   The original claim was that it was not possible to know the location/timing of the motorcade as it made its way to Dealey Plaza.  Then it was deemed a lie to suggest that there was reporting of the progress of the motorcade (as you might expect so that those responsible for security had a head's up as it approached their location). The witness testimony indicates that the motorcade was being reported over the police radio and reports of its progress could be heard in Dealey Plaza as it approached.  And, of course, the motorcade was the top news story that day in Dallas and was widely covered on broadcast TV and radio.  In addition, the crowd and motorcade noise were audible as the motorcade progressed through the city.  You could hear it approaching.   There was nothing impossible about anticipating the arrival of the motorcade in Dealey Plaza or knowing that it would be a few minutes behind schedule (as most such events are).  And even if this baseless claim had any validity (i.e. there would be no way for Oswald to know the exact time the motorcade would pass the building) that does nothing to preclude him from still being the assassin.  Instead down the rabbit hole we go.


And, of course, the motorcade was the top news story that day in Dallas and was widely covered on broadcast TV and radio.

Sure, it was.... there just wasn't any live minute by minute coverage.

 

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