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« Reply #250 on: August 09, 2022, 12:10:56 AM »
What’s weird is that in the dpdtapes transcript nobody tells the dispatcher over the radio that it was a white male, so where did he get that info for the “attention all squads” broadcast of the description?


This article is mostly about the channel-1 recording, which is Sawyer exhibit B. But it clearly states that Henslee prepared transcripts of both channels. A look at Sawyer exhibit A shows that it is a transcript of channel 2. Here’s a snip from the article:


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DPD Sergeant Gerald Dalton Henslee prepared an edited transcript of the channel 1 and 2 transmissions in the first few days of December 1963, and his testimony before the Warren Commission on April 8, 1964 clearly states that the transcripts were made directly from the original recordings – “They were prepared from the tapes on the channel 1. We have a tape on channel 1, and we have a record on channel 2. Two separate tape records, but they are prepared from those records and tapes.” Endnote The record shows that Henslee’s channel 1 transcript was given to Police Chief Jesse Curry on December 5, 1963. Curry gave the transcript to Secret Service Inspector Thomas Kelley, who forwarded it to his superior under date of December 6. The transcript was later entered into the records of the Warren Commission as Sawyer Exhibit B on April 8, 1964 at the time of Henslee’s testimony.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/scally.htm




Sawyer Exhibit A page 392:

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0208b.htm
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This article is mostly about the channel-1 recording, which is Sawyer exhibit B. But it clearly states that Henslee prepared transcripts of both channels. A look at Sawyer exhibit A shows that it is a transcript of channel 2. Here’s a snip from the article:

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/scally.htm


"DPD Sergeant Gerald Dalton Henslee prepared an edited transcript of the channel 1 and 2 transmissions in the first few days of December 1963................"

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EXHIBIT A
15 (Captain C.E. Talbert)  Could 9 determine whether man was supposed to have been still in the building or was he supposed to have left?
Dispatcher   I didn't know for sure and the witnesses didn't have the description, but we have got that building surrounded by now and we should know something before long.
9 (Inspector J.H. Sawyer)   On this building, it's unknown whether he is still in the building or not known if he was there in the first place.
531 (Sergeant G.D. Henslee)   Well, all the information we have receive, 9, indicates that it did come from about the 5th or 4th floor of that building.


EXHIBIT B

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« Reply #254 on: August 09, 2022, 07:31:09 PM »
excerpt from Commission Exhibit 705 (pages 75-76): (note: there is no response concerning current witness can't remember that, nor is there anything about a white male)



Unknown:   The type of weapon locked like a 30-30 rifle or some type
of Winchester .
Disp:   9 ; it was a rifle?
9:   A rifle, yes .
Disp:    9, any clothing description?
9:    Abut 30, 5 1 101", 165 lbs .
Disp:    Attention all squads, the suspect in the shooting at
Elm and Houston is supposed to be an unknown white
male, approximately 30, 165 lbs ., slender build, armed
with what is thought to be a 30-30 rifle . - repeat,
unknown white male, approximately 30, 165 lbs ., slender
build . No further description at this time or information, 12:45 p .m.
15:  Could 9 determine whether man was supposed to have been
still in the building or was he supposed to have left?
Disp:   I didn't know for sure and the witnesses didn't have
the description, but we have got that building secured
by now and we should know something before long .
9:   On this building, its unknown Whether he is still in
the building or not or known if he was there in the first
place .
531:   Well, all the information we have received, 9, indicates that it did come from about the 5th or 4th floor
of that building.




It is difficult to decide which of the three transcripts included in the Warren Commission Documents to believe. But I think that the Sawyer Exhibits A and B are probably the most accurate. I base that opinion on Henslee reportedly being the radio dispatcher manning channel 2 at that time, and reportedly creating the Sawyer exhibit A&B transcripts from the original recordings. I think Henslee (as someone who regularly dispatched on this radio system) would be more likely to be able to understand the lingo and recognize voices and words and identify the people making the calls than someone who was less familiar with all those items.

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« Reply #255 on: August 09, 2022, 08:44:57 PM »
excerpt from Commission Exhibit 705 (pages 75-76): (note: there is no response concerning current witness can't remember that, nor is there anything about a white male)



Unknown:   The type of weapon locked like a 30-30 rifle or some type
of Winchester .
Disp:   9 ; it was a rifle?
9:   A rifle, yes .
Disp:    9, any clothing description?
9:    Abut 30, 5 1 101", 165 lbs .
Disp:    Attention all squads, the suspect in the shooting at
Elm and Houston is supposed to be an unknown white
male, approximately 30, 165 lbs ., slender build, armed
with what is thought to be a 30-30 rifle . - repeat,
unknown white male, approximately 30, 165 lbs ., slender
build . No further description at this time or information, 12:45 p .m.
15:  Could 9 determine whether man was supposed to have been
still in the building or was he supposed to have left?
Disp:   I didn't know for sure and the witnesses didn't have
the description, but we have got that building secured
by now and we should know something before long .
9:   On this building, its unknown Whether he is still in
the building or not or known if he was there in the first
place .
531:   Well, all the information we have received, 9, indicates that it did come from about the 5th or 4th floor
of that building.

It is difficult to decide which of the three transcripts included in the Warren Commission Documents to believe. But I think that the Sawyer Exhibits A and B are probably the most accurate. I base that opinion on Henslee reportedly being the radio dispatcher manning channel 2 at that time, and reportedly creating the Sawyer exhibit A&B transcripts from the original recordings. I think Henslee (as someone who regularly dispatched on this radio system) would be more likely to be able to understand the lingo and recognize voices and words and identify the people making the calls than someone who was less familiar with all those items.

Disp:    9, any clothing description?
9:    About 30, 5'10", 165 lbs .


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« Reply #256 on: August 09, 2022, 09:23:35 PM »
Disp:    9, any clothing description?
9:    About 30, 5'10", 165 lbs .


 :D

Lee Oswald ....Just had 24th birthday... He was 5"9" .... Weighed 131 pounds..... 

Who ever the witnesses described, it was NOT  Lee Oswald.

(Oswald ) Says...  Two fellow colored employees walked by the lunchroom while he was eating lunch. One called Junior and other man short stature .....Says he didn't know their names.  Check with Mr Truly to see if he knows the two men.

The two men were Junior Jarman and Harold Norman and they swore that they in fact did walk by the 1st floor lunchroom at about 12:27....

Lee's statement of seeing those two walk by the lunchroom is a rock solid alibi..... But Lee wasn't using it as an alibi when he replied to Fritz's question ..... He was simply stating what he saw while he was there in that lunchroom. He had no idea that Fritz would question Jarman and Norman, or if they would verify that they had in fact walked by the lunchroom.
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« Reply #257 on: August 09, 2022, 09:44:41 PM »
Disp:    9, any clothing description?
9:    About 30, 5'10", 165 lbs .


 :D

I've said many times that the 6.5mm Carcano, a bolt action military style rifle was hidden beneath the pallet in the NW corner of the sixth floor BEFORE the shooting....

A witness (Howard Brennan ?)  said that the rifle he saw in the hands of the man who as older than Lee Oswald and dressed in Khaki colored clothing was holding a  ..... 30-30 Winchester.

Unknown:   The type of weapon locked like a 30-30 rifle or some type
of Winchester .
Disp:   9 ; it was a rifle?
9:   A rifle, yes .

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« Reply #258 on: August 09, 2022, 10:52:22 PM »
I've said many times that the 6.5mm Carcano, a bolt action military style rifle was hidden beneath the pallet in the NW corner of the sixth floor BEFORE the shooting....

A witness (Howard Brennan ?)  said that the rifle he saw in the hands of the man who as older than Lee Oswald and dressed in Khaki colored clothing was holding a  ..... 30-30 Winchester.

Unknown:   The type of weapon locked like a 30-30 rifle or some type
of Winchester .
Disp:   9 ; it was a rifle?
9:   A rifle, yes .

The witness (NOT Mr Brennan, who was a witness but not the one whose description made Insp. Sawyer put out the broadcast) said he saw a man "carrying what looks to be a 30-30 or some type of Winchester". The witness had seen this man running from the building carrying such a rifle.

Hence Insp. Sawyer does NOT say the suspect "may be carrying the rifle he fired with - a 30-30 or some type of Winchester". He knows the shooter was seen fleeing with his weapon.
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Lee Oswald ....Just had 24th birthday... He was 5"9" .... Weighed 131 pounds..... 

Who ever the witnesses described, it was NOT  Lee Oswald.

(Oswald ) Says...  Two fellow colored employees walked by the lunchroom while he was eating lunch. One called Junior and other man short stature .....Says he didn't know their names.  Check with Mr Truly to see if he knows the two men.

The two men were Junior Jarman and Harold Norman and they swore that they in fact did walk by the 1st floor lunchroom at about 12:27....

Lee's statement of seeing those two walk by the lunchroom is a rock solid alibi..... But Lee wasn't using it as an alibi when he replied to Fritz's question ..... He was simply stating what he saw while he was there in that lunchroom. He had no idea that Fritz would question Jarman and Norman, or if they would verify that they had in fact walked by the lunchroom.


The autopsy report shows an estimated weight of 150-lbs. And Dr. Rose had an up close and thorough examination of the body. Using your “logic”, it must not have been LHO….   ::)

 

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