A Rock Solid Alibi.....

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #200 on: August 05, 2022, 06:13:23 PM »
The same tired contrarian nonsense.  Going round and round in circles of rambling commentary, deflection, and insults.  You have suggested that Oswald couldn't get from the 6th floor to the lunchroom unnoticed.  When it was pointed out to you that SOMEONE on the 6th floor did escape unnoticed, you became hysterical suggesting the following as a possible explanation for why this fantasy person could do something that you claim Oswald could not:

"[Oswald] would not have had the luxury and ability of being able to hang around on the 6th floor and mingle with the many law enforcement officers that flooded the floor, pretending to be one of them and simply walking away. Oswald, or any other TSBD employee, on the 6th floor would have stood out in much the same way Oswald did to Baker on the 2nd floor."

This is one of the most baseless and laughable claims in the history of this forum.  There is zero evidence that anyone was found hanging around on the 6th floor claiming to be a law enforcement officer.  Baker and Truly did not encounter any such person when they arrived on the floor.   Don't you think someone might mention that they encountered on the floor from which the shots were fired?  You also suggest a complete stranger would be less noticeable than Oswald who was an employee of the TSBD.  Unreal.  It's understandable why you are running away from your own theory, suggestion, or whatever you are calling this baseless nonsense.  You should apologize to intelligent people on this forum for wasting their time.

There is zero evidence that anyone was found hanging around on the 6th floor claiming to be a law enforcement officer.

Of course not, fool. That would be the point of hiding in the open. There were so many difference law enforcement agents on that floor that anybody who looked similar to them would not be noticed. Do you, rather stupidly, think that those officers were going round asking eachother's credentials?

Besides, there's also zero evidence that Oswald ran down the stairs after the last shot.

Baker and Truly did not encounter any such person when they arrived on the floor.   Don't you think someone might mention that they encountered on the floor from which the shots were fired?

What in the world are you rambling on about? You seem to be losing it completely! Do you think Baker and Truly searched every floor completely? If not, how would they possibly see somebody hiding behind some boxes at another part of the building? Geeez... does everything need to be explained to you?

You also suggest a complete stranger would be less noticeable than Oswald who was an employee of the TSBD.  Unreal.

Try to understand this; after the shooting it didn't take long for the 6th floor to be flooded with all sorts of officers from different agencies, who were all "complete strangers" there!

You should apologize to intelligent people on this forum for wasting their time.

Which only means that I should never have to apologize to you.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #201 on: August 05, 2022, 06:17:48 PM »
Thatís not true. Brennan gave a reasonably close description at the scene. And singled out LHO at the lineup later that evening as looking like the gunman. (And thatís what I said that you disagreed with.)
You'll notice that the behavior of Brennan - e.g., not immediately identifying the shooter as Oswald - is evidence that calls into question his credibility but the behavior of Oswald that calls into question his credibility or innocence is always dismissed. Always meaning: always.

So the rule in "Oswald defender land" is that the behavior of those implicating Oswald can be used against them but the behavior of Oswald implicating himself cannot be used against him. Because the latter behavior is suddenly not evidence. It's evidence when it helps him but not evidence when it hurts him.

The efforts by the Oswald defenders to clear him, the double standards, the intellectual inconsistency, the shamelessness is sometimes remarkable.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #202 on: August 05, 2022, 06:18:12 PM »
You're adding so much on to the Stroud Letter, Garner can now see Adams and Styles on the staircase and can only hear them going down the stairs rather than Baker and Truly coming up.

Could it be you have not read what Dorothy Garner told Barry Ernest?

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« Reply #202 on: August 05, 2022, 06:18:12 PM »

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #203 on: August 05, 2022, 06:19:30 PM »
You'll notice that the behavior of Brennan - e.g., not immediately identifying the shooter as Oswald - is evidence that calls into question his credibility but the behavior of Oswald that calls into question his credibility or innocence is always dismissed. Always meaning: always.

So the rule in "Oswald defender land" is that the behavior of those implicating Oswald can be used against them but the behavior of Oswald implicating himself cannot be used against him. Because the latter behavior is suddenly not evidence. It's evidence when it helps him but not evidence when it hurts him.

The efforts by the Oswald defenders to clear him, the double standards, the intellectual inconsistency, the shamelessness is sometimes remarkable.

Ah stop whining, cry baby

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #204 on: August 05, 2022, 06:36:45 PM »
You'll notice that the behavior of Brennan - e.g., not immediately identifying the shooter as Oswald - is evidence that calls into question his credibility but the behavior of Oswald that calls into question his credibility or innocence is always dismissed. Always meaning: always.

So the rule in "Oswald defender land" is that the behavior of those implicating Oswald can be used against them but the behavior of Oswald implicating himself cannot be used against him. Because the latter behavior is suddenly not evidence. It's evidence when it helps him but not evidence when it hurts him.

The efforts by the Oswald defenders to clear him, the double standards, the intellectual inconsistency, the shamelessness is sometimes remarkable.


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I was watching a documentary about WWII recently. And they showed a statement from General Douglas MacArthur about FDR which went something like:

ďHe never tells the truth when a lie will suffice.Ē

Of course, thatís just political jockeying nonsense between the General and FDR.

But, I couldnít help but think how well that actually applies to LHO. Itís a pity that the naysayers donít seem to realize that.

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #205 on: August 05, 2022, 10:33:02 PM »
The prestigious corner office was quite cluttered. Unless, of course one had bad intent and wanted to be hidden from any potential others on the floor...




The workers who selected the fifth floor also apparently liked the southeast corner office. But they knew the one on the floor above was cluttered...

--"Hey, let's not go up to 6 after all. Let's go to 5"
--"Why?"
--"There's some boxes at one of the seven windows on 6."
--"Ugh, you're right. I couldn't concentrate on the parade knowing there's a bunch of boxes at another window. Actually I'd prefer 5 also on account of I'm scared of heights"
--"Thank you for saying that. Me too. And I really miss 5, we had so many good times laying the floor there. 6 is yucky."

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« Reply #205 on: August 05, 2022, 10:33:02 PM »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #206 on: August 05, 2022, 10:35:11 PM »

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I was watching a documentary about WWII recently. And they showed a statement from General Douglas MacArthur about FDR which went something like:

ďHe never tells the truth when a lie will suffice.Ē

Of course, thatís just political jockeying nonsense between the General and FDR.

But, I couldnít help but think how well that actually applies to LHO. Itís a pity that the naysayers donít seem to realize that.

Here are just some of the fine, honest and totally uncorrupt people Mr Oswald was up against

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna25917791

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #207 on: August 05, 2022, 10:37:25 PM »
So the rule in "Oswald defender land" is that the behavior of those implicating Oswald can be used against them

But no witness implicates Mr Oswald as the sixth-floor shooter. Not a one!  Thumb1:

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #208 on: August 05, 2022, 10:54:19 PM »
Thatís not true. Brennan gave a reasonably close description at the scene.

What description did Mr Brennan give at the scene, Mr Collins?

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #209 on: August 05, 2022, 11:46:40 PM »
Here are just some of the fine, honest and totally uncorrupt people Mr Oswald was up against

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna25917791
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'Not a racist'
But some of those who knew Wade say the truth is more complicated than Watkins' summation. "My father was not a racist. He didn't have a racist bone in his body," said Kim Wade, a lawyer in his own right. "He was very competitive."
There are some things I would say about Henry Wade..competitive ...isn't one of them. I would say a soul of granite is more like it.
Henry Wade gave lectures to his assistants ---Avoid picking black jurists... avoid picking women jurists... but especially avoid picking black women jurists. No ...he wasn't a racist ::) 


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