A Rock Solid Alibi.....

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #80 on: August 03, 2022, 04:57:18 PM »

How realistic is it that he went from the top of the steps to the second floor lunchroom before Truly and Baker got there, and no one saw him?

He went up to the second-floor lunchroom to buy a coke BEFORE the P. Parade

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #81 on: August 03, 2022, 05:00:47 PM »
He went up to the second-floor lunchroom to buy a coke BEFORE the P. Parade

He was stopped by Baker and Truly in the second floor lunchroom immediately after the motorcade passed by the TSBD.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #82 on: August 03, 2022, 05:02:28 PM »
Could it be they were all focused on other things and simply didn't observe him? Many people simply do not notice things or people that are close to them and many also simply do not recollect information.
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  AKA 'inattentional blindness'

Inattentional 'blindness' might have been a factor if indeed Oswald was outside (but not noticed) as some here are arguing
The same kind of argument may be applied re inattentional deafness and the stairs

In any case:


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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #83 on: August 03, 2022, 05:03:46 PM »
He was stopped by Baker and Truly in the second floor lunchroom immediately after the motorcade passed by the TSBD.

So what? What does that tell you about when he got to the lunchroom?

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« Reply #83 on: August 03, 2022, 05:03:46 PM »

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #84 on: August 03, 2022, 05:05:18 PM »
He was stopped by Baker and Truly in the second floor lunchroom immediately after the motorcade passed by the TSBD.

Not according to Officer Baker's same-day affidavit. But by all means continue in your happily subcritical Warren Gullibility, Mr Collins!  Thumb1:

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #85 on: August 03, 2022, 05:06:36 PM »
Inattentional 'blindness' might have been a factor if indeed Oswald was outside (but not noticed) as some here are arguing
The same kind of argument may be applied re inattentional deafness and the stairs

In any case:


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Except that it was impossible to be quiet on those old wooden stairs. Dorothy Garner told Barry Ernest that she knew the girls had gone down (before she saw Truly and the police man come up) because she heard them on the stairs. There is no way that anybody could have run down those stairs without making a noise.

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #86 on: August 03, 2022, 05:26:53 PM »
Not according to Officer Baker's same-day affidavit. But by all means continue in your happily subcritical Warren Gullibility, Mr Collins!  Thumb1:

Roy Truly’s same-day affidavit includes the correct floor and room. He was with Baker and knew the building well. But by all means, continue in your nutty fantasy Mr. Ford.

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« Reply #86 on: August 03, 2022, 05:26:53 PM »

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« Reply #87 on: August 03, 2022, 05:44:21 PM »
Except that it was impossible to be quiet on those old wooden stairs. Dorothy Garner told Barry Ernest that she knew the girls had gone down (before she saw Truly and the police man come up) because she heard them on the stairs. There is no way that anybody could have run down those stairs without making a noise.

The noise can be minimized by someone light on his feet (including his 131lbs) and in good shape
The girls had no reason to worry about being heard.

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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #88 on: August 03, 2022, 06:27:08 PM »
The noise can be minimized by someone light on his feet (including his 131lbs) and in good shape
The girls had no reason to worry about being heard.
One of the order fillers/workers Roy Lewis said this in "No More Silence."

"Sometimes if you were on one of the floors by yourself somebody would sneak up and you'd never know they were there.....They could walk down the stairway and a lot of times they'd be on you before you'd know it..."

What's the evidence that the steps made loud noises or were loud when you went up and down? I can understand multiple people making noise but Lewis's account says one person could go down quietly. And that's in a quiet time or atmosphere; there was lots of noise outside during the aftermath of the shooting.
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« Reply #89 on: August 03, 2022, 06:29:55 PM »
The noise can be minimized by someone light on his feet (including his 131lbs) and in good shape
The girls had no reason to worry about being heard.

The noise can be minimized by someone light on his feet

LOL  You never ran down those stairs.

 

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