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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2022, 04:47:25 PM »
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Honestly, that is tin foil hat stuff.  It ranks with Walt's red rings.  There are no witnesses, films or photos that place Oswald outside.  And you think the conspirators would exercise no control over their "patsy" who they were framing for the crime?

They weren't framing him as the man who pulled a trigger from the sixth floor

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They just let him stand on the street in the presence of his co-workers, law enforcement. and random witnesses.

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Hoping they can get all these folks to lie after the fact?  That was their plan?

Nope

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Unreal.

Yep, just like all of your strawman arguments, Mr Smith.

If you really are confident there's nothing to see in that doorway, then you will have no hesitation in explaining the shadow down Mr Lovelady here:



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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2022, 05:08:35 PM »
Honestly, that is tin foil hat stuff.  It ranks with Walt's red rings.  There are no witnesses, films or photos that place Oswald outside.  And you think the conspirators would exercise no control over their "patsy" who they were framing for the crime?  They just let him stand on the street in the presence of his co-workers, law enforcement. and random witnesses.  Hoping they can get all these folks to lie after the fact?  That was their plan?  Unreal.

There are no witnesses, films or photos that place Oswald outside.

Since when is absence of evidence evidence of absence?

And you think the conspirators would exercise no control over their "patsy" who they were framing for the crime?  They just let him stand on the street in the presence of his co-workers, law enforcement. and random witnesses.  Hoping they can get all these folks to lie after the fact?  That was their plan?  Unreal.

And again another meaningless strawman. Witnesses do not need to lie when they are ignored, just like Dorothy Garner. And they can always be discredited when they do speak, like Carolyn Arnold.
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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2022, 05:19:53 PM »
There are no witnesses, films or photos that place Oswald outside.

Since when is absence of evidence evidence of absence?



There is not an "absence of evidence."  There is an absence of Oswald.  LOL.  There are plenty of films and photos of Dealey Plaza during the motorcade.  They show the folks who WERE there.  Oswald is in none of them.  He was not the invisible man.  If he had stepped outside the TSBD to watch the motorcade, he would have showed up in one of those films or photos.  He did not.  He is "absent" because he was not there.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2022, 06:07:03 PM »
There is not an "absence of evidence."  There is an absence of Oswald.  LOL.  There are plenty of films and photos of Dealey Plaza during the motorcade.  They show the folks who WERE there.  Oswald is in none of them.  He was not the invisible man.  If he had stepped outside the TSBD to watch the motorcade, he would have showed up in one of those films or photos.  He did not.  He is "absent" because he was not there.

There is not an "absence of evidence."  There is an absence of Oswald.

Are you really this dumb, or just pretending to be?

There are plenty of films and photos of Dealey Plaza during the motorcade.  They show the folks who WERE there.

So, everybody who was at Dealey Plaza at that time can be seen on film or photo? Is that what you are rather stupidly trying to say? Really? How in the world would you even know this?

Oswald is in none of them. 

You've seen all of the films and photos, have you? And even if he is not in any of them, that still doesn't mean he wasn't there.

If he had stepped outside the TSBD to watch the motorcade, he would have showed up in one of those films or photos.

You can't be this dumb, can you?


But to apply your special kind of logic; there is no film or photo showing Oswald on the 6th floor of the TSBD at 12:30, so that means he wasn't there, right?
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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2022, 07:18:25 PM »
coworkers who saw him on the sixth floor,

Not after 12:00.

Or even before 12:00.  The elevator race guys said "5th or 6th".  Givens didn't come up with his "going back for cigarettes" story until April, 1964.  After Revill told Gemberling that he believed that Givens would change his story for money.

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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2022, 09:14:59 PM »
No person can reasonably believe that LHO, a person with a well-documented history of interest in politics, who checked out and read JFK's book from the library, wouldn't so much as go outside to watch the motorcade go by his workplace if he was innocent.

No reasonable person can call this evidence of murder.

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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2022, 09:16:36 PM »
Oswald makes no mention of leaving the building to buy his lunch.  No one sees him do so.

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Nobody saw him shoot Kennedy either.

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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2022, 09:18:20 PM »
Yes, or maybe he lifted a piece of BRW's chicken.  It was fowl play.  A contrarian here once suggested that perhaps Oswald didn't sneak into the Texas Theatre without buying a ticket because no one could rule out that he bought a ticket in advance!  As though they had Fandango in 1963 and Oswald could somehow know in advance that he would be knocking off early for the movie that day after the president was assassinated from his building.  Nothing ever has to make sense.  The sole objective is to cast doubt on Oswald's guilt by any means.

Despite your lame attempt at ridicule, Julia Postal told both Brewer and the FBI that she wasn't sure if he bought a ticket or not.