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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2022, 04:44:27 PM »
But that's exactly what Mr Oswald did do-------------he went outside to watch the P. Parade  Thumb1:

Honestly, that is tin foil hat stuff.  It ranks with Walt's red rings.  There are no witnesses, films or photos that place Oswald outside.  And you think the conspirators would exercise no control over their "patsy" who they were framing for the crime?  They just let him stand on the street in the presence of his co-workers, law enforcement. and random witnesses.  Hoping they can get all these folks to lie after the fact?  That was their plan?  Unreal.

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2022, 04:44:38 PM »
There were no grounds to believe Oswald had any lunch.  No one other than himself ever claimed it was so.  And the DPD had a mountain of evidence to connect him to the crime.  Again, though, you think Oswald lied to Frazier about his lunch and brought a sandwich in a bag over two feet long?  Like Fred Flinstone's lunch box?  That's really the story you are going with?

Let me know when you have an actual argument, Mr Smith!  Thumb1:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2022, 04:47:25 PM »
Honestly, that is tin foil hat stuff.  It ranks with Walt's red rings.  There are no witnesses, films or photos that place Oswald outside.  And you think the conspirators would exercise no control over their "patsy" who they were framing for the crime?

They weren't framing him as the man who pulled a trigger from the sixth floor

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They just let him stand on the street in the presence of his co-workers, law enforcement. and random witnesses.

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Hoping they can get all these folks to lie after the fact?  That was their plan?

Nope

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Unreal.

Yep, just like all of your strawman arguments, Mr Smith.

If you really are confident there's nothing to see in that doorway, then you will have no hesitation in explaining the shadow down Mr Lovelady here:



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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2022, 05:08:35 PM »
Honestly, that is tin foil hat stuff.  It ranks with Walt's red rings.  There are no witnesses, films or photos that place Oswald outside.  And you think the conspirators would exercise no control over their "patsy" who they were framing for the crime?  They just let him stand on the street in the presence of his co-workers, law enforcement. and random witnesses.  Hoping they can get all these folks to lie after the fact?  That was their plan?  Unreal.

There are no witnesses, films or photos that place Oswald outside.

Since when is absence of evidence evidence of absence?

And you think the conspirators would exercise no control over their "patsy" who they were framing for the crime?  They just let him stand on the street in the presence of his co-workers, law enforcement. and random witnesses.  Hoping they can get all these folks to lie after the fact?  That was their plan?  Unreal.

And again another meaningless strawman. Witnesses do not need to lie when they are ignored, just like Dorothy Garner. And they can always be discredited when they do speak, like Carolyn Arnold.
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2022, 05:19:53 PM »
There are no witnesses, films or photos that place Oswald outside.

Since when is absence of evidence evidence of absence?



There is not an "absence of evidence."  There is an absence of Oswald.  LOL.  There are plenty of films and photos of Dealey Plaza during the motorcade.  They show the folks who WERE there.  Oswald is in none of them.  He was not the invisible man.  If he had stepped outside the TSBD to watch the motorcade, he would have showed up in one of those films or photos.  He did not.  He is "absent" because he was not there.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2022, 06:07:03 PM »
There is not an "absence of evidence."  There is an absence of Oswald.  LOL.  There are plenty of films and photos of Dealey Plaza during the motorcade.  They show the folks who WERE there.  Oswald is in none of them.  He was not the invisible man.  If he had stepped outside the TSBD to watch the motorcade, he would have showed up in one of those films or photos.  He did not.  He is "absent" because he was not there.

There is not an "absence of evidence."  There is an absence of Oswald.

Are you really this dumb, or just pretending to be?

There are plenty of films and photos of Dealey Plaza during the motorcade.  They show the folks who WERE there.

So, everybody who was at Dealey Plaza at that time can be seen on film or photo? Is that what you are rather stupidly trying to say? Really? How in the world would you even know this?

Oswald is in none of them. 

You've seen all of the films and photos, have you? And even if he is not in any of them, that still doesn't mean he wasn't there.

If he had stepped outside the TSBD to watch the motorcade, he would have showed up in one of those films or photos.

You can't be this dumb, can you?


But to apply your special kind of logic; there is no film or photo showing Oswald on the 6th floor of the TSBD at 12:30, so that means he wasn't there, right?
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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2022, 07:18:25 PM »
coworkers who saw him on the sixth floor,

Not after 12:00.

Or even before 12:00.  The elevator race guys said "5th or 6th".  Givens didn't come up with his "going back for cigarettes" story until April, 1964.  After Revill told Gemberling that he believed that Givens would change his story for money.