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Online Sean Kneringer

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Re: Umbrella Man: Suspicious
« Reply #136 on: August 06, 2022, 08:13:57 PM »
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This thread is just another sad example of the refusal of WC apologists to see what is so plainly obvious. Witt's account of his alleged actions markedly contradicts Umbrella Man's actions seen in the photographic evidence, not to mention that his account raises questions about his sentience and comprehension.

He was testifying 15 years after the fact and never claimed to be a buff. There were Dealey Plaza witnesses who got things wrong on the day of the assassination, let alone 15 years Later. Some congressional jackass had the temerity to ask him if he was ever a member of the KKK. I would've stood up and left immediately.

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« Reply #136 on: August 06, 2022, 08:13:57 PM »


Offline Paul J Cummings

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« Reply #137 on: August 07, 2022, 11:53:28 PM »
Where’s the evidence that Witt was even the umbrella man?

He's not and his testimony was purgery.

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« Reply #138 on: August 08, 2022, 06:43:21 PM »
This is from an account written on the evening of 11/22/63 by one of the motorcade motorcycle escort officers. It can be found in J.C. Bowles’ rebuttal to the HSCA acoustical fiasco. Bowles doesn’t identify him by name. But it is apparently D.L. Jackson. They were traveling on Main Street near Akard.



About this time I saw ahead of me standing in the street a lady holding an umbrella, the type that had a long metal piece on the tip. I rode up beside Jim Chaney forcing people to back up but this lady didn't right then. An Agent left his car and got on the rear of the presidential car. I rode closer to her forcing her back into the crowd. After we passed her the agent went back to his car.

Further evidence that umbrellas were a known symbol for showing dissatisfaction regarding the Kennedys’ policies.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2022, 06:48:43 PM by Charles Collins »

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #139 on: August 09, 2022, 11:49:40 PM »
... a lady holding an umbrella...
Further evidence that umbrellas were a known symbol for showing dissatisfaction regarding the Kennedys’ policies.
Nah...that was Mary Poppins :-\

You [Jerry Organ] have clearly not read Witt's HSCA testimony yet you feel qualified to comment on it.
Firstly, nowhere in his testimony does he refer to the umbrella being buffeted by the wind. It's weird that you keep insisting he says that when you haven't read his testimony...You should be ashamed as a researcher.
Is that what he is? Actually, Organ is a skeptic [skeptical of skepticism]

Witt seems to be referring to missing the President being wounded during one of the moments when he was struggling with umbrella (the Zapruder film shows the umbrella being buffeted by the wind, just like Witt said).
The Zapruder film does not show the umbrella buffeted by the wind and link the volume, page, and paragraph where Witt says it was...start here--
 https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol4/html/HSCA_Vol4_0217a.htm 

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« Reply #140 on: August 10, 2022, 12:05:20 AM »
The Loons think it inconceivable that a conservative protestor living in Dallas at that time would be so extreme to show up with an umbrella to tie Kennedy to "appeasement" of international Communism.

"By early 1963, Dallas was the most singular city in America-it had become, without question, the roiling headquarters for the angry, absolutist resistance to John F. Kennedy and his administration.

A confederacy of like-minded men had coalesced in Dallas: the anti-Catholic leader of the largest Baptist congregation in America, the far-right media magnate who published the state's leading newspaper, the most ideologically extreme member of Congress, and the wealthiest man in the world-oilman H.L. Hunt. Together they formed the most vitriolic anti-Kennedy movement in the nation. And they began to attract others who were even more extreme to the city."

The American Prospect ( Link )

On the day of the assassination, there were the "Wanted for Treason" posters and newspaper ad. There was the "Impreach Earl Warren" billboard and Edwin Walker. The whole city probably thought all Easterners and West Coasters drank baby blood, lived in mansions and had Guatemalan illegals working free as house staff.
The Loons huh? Well that leaves me out because I have been posting this very idea since I joined up here.
H L Hunt...hated Kennedy
His pals LBJ, J E Hoover, Earl Cabell, Henry Wade [and certain Dallas Police did too]
The crime bosses hated JFK, certain in military, CIA, anti-Castro Cubans, also.
They were the stew that produced the ambush. If you believe Witt then see where he testified that the shots went off like a string of firecrackers.

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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #141 on: August 10, 2022, 12:25:48 AM »
The Loons huh? Well that leaves me out because I have been posting this very idea since I joined up here.

I take it, then, that you're OK with "a conservative protestor living in Dallas at that time would be so extreme to show up with an umbrella to tie Kennedy to "appeasement" of international Communism." Or do you find that inconceivable like the Loons?

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H L Hunt...hated Kennedy
His pals LBJ, J E Hoover, Earl Cabell, Henry Wade [and certain Dallas Police did too]
The crime bosses hated JFK, certain in military, CIA, anti-Castro Cubans, also.
They were the stew that produced the ambush. If you believe Witt then see where he testified that the shots went off like a string of firecrackers.

"Ambush?" Doesn't that make you a mind-made-up Conspiracy Theorist? I don't know what, if any, LN evidence you've given fair consideration.

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« Reply #142 on: August 10, 2022, 05:01:34 AM »
 

"Ambush?" Doesn't that make you a mind-made-up Conspiracy Theorist? I don't know what, if any, LN evidence you've given fair consideration.
Ambush--- an act or instance of lying concealed so as to attack by surprise; an act or instance of attacking unexpectedly from a concealed position. 

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #143 on: August 10, 2022, 02:38:15 PM »
Ambush, as in 'surprise attack' is the word I introduced to describe Oswald's actions regarding Kennedy and Tippit.
I also used 'in cold blood' (without feeling or mercy; ruthlessly) especially regarding Tippit

Stay tuned for further
word-nourishment, kiddies



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