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Offline Gerry Down

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #368 on: August 31, 2022, 11:58:55 PM »
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So If Joe Biden tells a lie and that lie is repeated often enough, it will come to be believed and accepted as the truth?

That's how he got elected.

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #369 on: September 01, 2022, 12:50:32 AM »
Shoot him in the act.

The plotters had hoped that Lee would be a stupid sucker that he would actually be behind that window where they could shoot him and kill him and then decorate a cop for being alert and catching the assassin in the act.

Then the headlines  would have been:   Assassin Shot Before He Could Escape....... Case closed

Lee knew that it would be very risky to play out his role as an attempt assassin behind that window..... so he adlibbed his role and merely left the spent shells and the hidden rifle and stayed out of sight  until after JFK had passed by the TSBD.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #370 on: September 01, 2022, 01:12:34 AM »
The plotters had hoped that Lee would be a stupid sucker that he would actually be behind that window where they could shoot him and kill him and then decorate a cop for being alert and catching the assassin in the act.

Then the headlines  would have been:   Assassin Shot Before He Could Escape....... Case closed

Lee knew that it would be very risky to play out his role as an attempt assassin behind that window..... so he adlibbed his role and merely left the spent shells and the hidden rifle and stayed out of sight  until after JFK had passed by the TSBD.




Then the headlines  would have been:   Assassin Shot Before He Could Escape....... Case closed


Exactly, that’s why I said that it would be a better way to frame someone than planting a rifle.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #371 on: September 01, 2022, 01:43:42 AM »



Then the headlines  would have been:   Assassin Shot Before He Could Escape....... Case closed


Exactly, that’s why I said that it would be a better way to frame someone than planting a rifle.

But if the sucker didn't co-operate ..... then what?   

Since Lee was not on the sixth floor to be shot while trying to escape, he foiled that part of their plot....I'm not sure who the guy was who Baker and Truly encountered on either the third or fourth floor but he may have been the "alert law officer" who was assigned to kill Oswald.  ( of course he couldn't do his job because Lee wasn't there)   They had to have the mute evidence of the spent shells and the rifle to pin the assassination on Lee Oswald.  If only they could have had the dead body.......Case Closed.....

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #372 on: September 01, 2022, 01:57:32 AM »
But if the sucker didn't co-operate ..... then what?   

Since Lee was not on the sixth floor to be shot while trying to escape, he foiled that part of their plot....I'm not sure who the guy was who Baker and Truly encountered on either the third or fourth floor but he may have been the "alert law officer" who was assigned to kill Oswald.  ( of course he couldn't do his job because Lee wasn't there)   They had to have the mute evidence of the spent shells and the rifle to pin the assassination on Lee Oswald.  If only they could have had the dead body.......Case Closed.....


But if the sucker didn't co-operate ..... then what?   


I answered a hypothetical question with a hypothetical answer. And I said that the details are up to others. That includes contingencies.

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« Reply #372 on: September 01, 2022, 01:57:32 AM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #373 on: September 02, 2022, 04:29:32 PM »
Their tactic was similar to Hitler and Goebbels. A lie repeated often enough comes to be believed.

Sorry, but the Big Lie was the one the Warren Commission told.

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« Reply #374 on: September 02, 2022, 08:25:34 PM »
Sorry, but the Big Lie was the one the Warren Commission told.

Yes..... And I believe that lie is bigger than anything Hitler presented.

Those who refer to the committee as the "Warren Commission"   are avoiding the fact that the organization was hand picked by LBJ.   He said that it was his "Special hand picked blue ribbon committee". And their mission was to convince the public that Lee Harrrrrrvey Ossssssswald  ( Boooo!! Hisssss!!) was just a lone nut who had murdered president Kennedy for no reason, and he had no accomplices.
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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #375 on: September 04, 2022, 05:44:34 AM »
 If the photo of the rifle between the boxes is legit, then even after a box was moved out of the way, the remaining boxes apparently were applying enough force on the rifle to keep it from rotating from vertical to flat on the ground.

So there seems to be  really only 2 possibilities to explain the flat laying rifle in Tom Aleya’s film sequence

1. At least one MORE box was moved just AFTER the photo was taken but just BEFORE Tom Aleya films Lt.Day lifting  rifle up, the result causing the rifle the to fall over flat.

2. The rifle was moved from some other location or was brought to the 6th floor to be filmed by Aleya as laying flat at the location of the boxes. The photograph of the rifle was then taken LATER to.establish a false timeline of the rifle discovered at 1:22pm.   

If no.1 , then there is a dishonest account given that there was no disturbance of the scene between the rifle photographed and the rifle then lifted by Lt.Day.

If no.2 then there is outright conspiracy.

Either way , there is reasonable doubt about the veracity of the account of the rifle being found, where and when it was found.