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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #320 on: August 28, 2022, 03:36:04 PM »
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Bumping this because it's important and no one on here ever wants to talk about logic here.

The LN credo is that it doesn’t matter because they know Oswald did it. Whatever it takes, Oswald could have done it. And if he could have done it, then he did do it. QED

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #321 on: August 28, 2022, 04:02:17 PM »
The LN credo is that it doesn’t matter because they know Oswald did it. Whatever it takes, Oswald could have done it. And if he could have done it, then he did do it. QED

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« Reply #322 on: August 28, 2022, 04:53:30 PM »
There is a lot more that makes no sense at all. If Oswald was the assassin and he managed to get down to the 2nd floor, why not simply turn right, walk through the office space and out of the building? Why stop in the 2nd floor lunchroom?

If Oswald was the assassin and he managed to get down to the 2nd floor, why not simply turn right, walk through the office space and out of the building? Why stop in the 2nd floor lunchroom?

Excellent point....Mr Walton.

If lee was the panicky fleeing killer as LBJ's special committee presented to us....Then he certainly would have fled through the door to the office area and then down the stairs and out of the building. 

The fact that Baker and Truly encountered Lee in the lunchroom calmly drinking a coke is strong evidence that he had no idea that JFK had just been murdered in front of the TSBD.       

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #323 on: August 28, 2022, 05:17:11 PM »
There is a lot more that makes no sense at all. If Oswald was the assassin and he managed to get down to the 2nd floor, why not simply turn right, walk through the office space and out of the building? Why stop in the 2nd floor lunchroom?

Yes, Martin. Exactly and beautifully said. I know I sometimes use comparisons of other crimes to make a point. But it'd be like Tim McVeigh parking the van full of explosives next to the building in OKC, then going into the actual building to buy a soft drink in there, drinking it, perhaps then go into the restroom to take a xxxx, and then KABOOM!

I'm joking, of course, but the logic for Oswald's so-called actions make no sense that day. Another one - the getting on the bus, getting out and starting to get into a cab but letting a lady take that cab first are not the actions of a so-called madman who supposedly just murdered the president.

And another one - as he returns to his rooming house and decides to go see a picture show, he somehow takes a very long roundabout way to the theater, where he supposedly runs into Tippit and murders him. All he'd have to have done is walk straight down the street from his rooming house and turn right to the movie house.

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« Reply #324 on: August 28, 2022, 05:38:16 PM »
Yes, Martin. Exactly and beautifully said. I know I sometimes use comparisons of other crimes to make a point. But it'd be like Tim McVeigh parking the van full of explosives next to the building in OKC, then going into the actual building to buy a soft drink in there, drinking it, perhaps then go into the restroom to take a xxxx, and then KABOOM!

I'm joking, of course, but the logic for Oswald's so-called actions make no sense that day. Another one - the getting on the bus, getting out and starting to get into a cab but letting a lady take that cab first are not the actions of a so-called madman who supposedly just murdered the president.

And another one - as he returns to his rooming house and decides to go see a picture show, he somehow takes a very long roundabout way to the theater, where he supposedly runs into Tippit and murders him. All he'd have to have done is walk straight down the street from his rooming house and turn right to the movie house.

he returns to his rooming house and decides to go see a picture show, he somehow takes a very long roundabout way to the theater, where he supposedly runs into Tippit and murders him. All he'd have to have done is walk straight down the street from his rooming house and turn right to the movie house.


He seems to have had a bus transfer in his pocket when he left the rooming house, so he wouldn't have had to walk to the theater. He could have caught the bus and used that transfer ticket.  But perhaps the transfer was not valid for the Beckley Ave bus, so he simply paid the fare and rode the bus to the theater as he told captain Fritz .

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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #325 on: August 28, 2022, 05:39:25 PM »
Yes, Martin. Exactly and beautifully said. I know I sometimes use comparisons of other crimes to make a point. But it'd be like Tim McVeigh parking the van full of explosives next to the building in OKC, then going into the actual building to buy a soft drink in there, drinking it, perhaps then go into the restroom to take a xxxx, and then KABOOM!

I'm joking, of course, but the logic for Oswald's so-called actions make no sense that day. Another one - the getting on the bus, getting out and starting to get into a cab but letting a lady take that cab first are not the actions of a so-called madman who supposedly just murdered the president.

Then again, why not again wait for a city bus to take him home. Cheaper and he's supposedly in no hurry. Interesting he can't wait on the bus he was originally on. Why not? Oswald has lots of time and is no hurry.

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And another one - as he returns to his rooming house and decides to go see a picture show,

What makes you think Oswald decided at the rooming house to go see a movie? Because Oswald said so? Even if so, why take his handgun with him and ditch his jacket before reaching the theater?

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he somehow takes a very long roundabout way to the theater, where he supposedly runs into Tippit and murders him. All he'd have to have done is walk straight down the street from his rooming house and turn right to the movie house.

"Supposedly"? Absent Hollywood-quality film of the Tippit murder, what would it take to make you think it was Oswald? And if it's such a short walk from his rooming house to the theater, why does it take him such a long time to arrive at the theater?

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« Reply #326 on: August 28, 2022, 06:32:18 PM »
What makes you think Oswald decided at the rooming house to go see a movie? Because Oswald said so? Even if so, why take his handgun with him and ditch his jacket before reaching the theater?

There's no evidence that he "took his handgun" or "ditched his jacket".

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"Supposedly"? Absent Hollywood-quality film of the Tippit murder, what would it take to make you think it was Oswald?

Reliable, conclusive evidence rather than made-up stories and propaganda.

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And if it's such a short walk from his rooming house to the theater, why does it take him such a long time to arrive at the theater?

Both Burroughs and Davis put him at the theater prior to 1:20.  That's not such a long time.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #327 on: August 28, 2022, 06:46:34 PM »
Then again, why not again wait for a city bus to take him home. Cheaper and he's supposedly in no hurry. Interesting he can't wait on the bus he was originally on. Why not? Oswald has lots of time and is no hurry.

What makes you think Oswald decided at the rooming house to go see a movie? Because Oswald said so? Even if so, why take his handgun with him and ditch his jacket before reaching the theater?

"Supposedly"? Absent Hollywood-quality film of the Tippit murder, what would it take to make you think it was Oswald? And if it's such a short walk from his rooming house to the theater, why does it take him such a long time to arrive at the theater?


Then again, why not again wait for a city bus to take him home. Cheaper and he's supposedly in no hurry. Interesting he can't wait on the bus he was originally on. Why not? Oswald has lots of time and is no hurry.

Duh, he supposedly was just on a bus that got stuck in traffic. If that happened to one bus, it will happen to others as well. A taxi is far more flexible. And, I know a big deal was made about Oswald never taking a taxi, but whoever told that story had no way of knowing that, unless he was with Oswald 24/7.