The Position of the Bolt on the MC


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Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #264 on: August 18, 2022, 12:03:29 AM »
The museum have a video where they did it in 48 sec in an almost identical warehouse.
And recently i found that someone else had done some kind of test & took 47 sec.

Bull !.....

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #265 on: August 18, 2022, 04:58:24 AM »
A mediocre re-enactment---
Where were the stacks of boxes?... obstacle free it appeared.
Did the guy thoroughly wipe that rifle down? Was that really how the rifle was "hidden"?
Howard Brennan picked Lee Harvey Oswald out of a police lineup as a man “closely resembling” the one he saw, but he declined in his first interviews with police and Federal Bureau of Investigation agents to make a positive identification.
 
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Mr. BELIN. Could you describe the man you saw in the window on the sixth floor?
Mr. BRENNAN. To my best description, a man in his early thirties, fair complexion, slender but neat, neat slender, possibly 5-foot 10.
Mr. BELIN. About what weight?
Mr. BRENNAN. Oh, at--I calculated, I think, from 160 to 170 pounds.
Mr. BELIN. A white man?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what kind of clothes he was wearing?
Mr. BRENNAN. Light colored clothes, more of a khaki color.

Even in testimony...Brennan failed to describe Oswald as he really looked that day.
I'm sure I read about witnesses who looked up at the shooter and said he apparently was in no hurry to disappear.
The re-enactment shows that practically anybody could boogie down 4 flights of stairs but does it really prove anything?

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #266 on: August 18, 2022, 06:14:53 PM »
A mediocre re-enactment---
Where were the stacks of boxes?... obstacle free it appeared.
Did the guy thoroughly wipe that rifle down? Was that really how the rifle was "hidden"?
Howard Brennan picked Lee Harvey Oswald out of a police lineup as a man “closely resembling” the one he saw, but he declined in his first interviews with police and Federal Bureau of Investigation agents to make a positive identification.
 
Even in testimony...Brennan failed to describe Oswald as he really looked that day.
I'm sure I read about witnesses who looked up at the shooter and said he apparently was in no hurry to disappear.
The re-enactment shows that practically anybody could boogie down 4 flights of stairs but does it really prove anything?

A mediocre re-enactment---

A mediocre re-enactment--- of a imaginary event.   

How is that relevant to the case....  There isn't one iota of solid information that the event ( the flight from the window to the lunchroom) actually happened.  And the " investigators " re-enact an imaginary event??
Isn't this the essence of insanity?   A person close to me has Alzhiemers disease and they imagine all kinds of irrational events.....  It would be insane to attempt to re-enact their imagined tale.   Example... The person mislays their glasses and they insist that someone came in and stole the glasses.   It would be silly to take them seriously and call the police....

The same thing applies to the tale of Lee Oswald fleeing the scene .....  Why would anybody take that tale seriously ??   Lee had told them that he was in the first floor lunchroom when the president passed by... and they had verified that he was telling the truth ..... so WHY perform the charade?

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #267 on: August 18, 2022, 07:07:54 PM »
A mediocre re-enactment---

A mediocre re-enactment--- of a imaginary event.   

How is that relevant to the case....  There isn't one iota of solid information that the event ( the flight from the window to the lunchroom) actually happened.  And the " investigators " re-enact an imaginary event??
Isn't this the essence of insanity?   A person close to me has Alzhiemers disease and they imagine all kinds of irrational events.....  It would be insane to attempt to re-enact their imagined tale.   Example... The person mislays their glasses and they insist that someone came in and stole the glasses.   It would be silly to take them seriously and call the police....

The same thing applies to the tale of Lee Oswald fleeing the scene .....  Why would anybody take that tale seriously ??   Lee had told them that he was in the first floor lunchroom when the president passed by... and they had verified that he was telling the truth ..... so WHY perform the charade?

Lee had told them that he was in the first floor lunchroom when the president passed by... and they had verified that he was telling the truth
_They did not verify that he was telling the truth. They only verified what he said. True-or-false is up to the court

The Gary Mack time test video advises that they used obstacles placed in the way of their tester
« Last Edit: August 18, 2022, 07:24:01 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #268 on: August 18, 2022, 07:42:26 PM »
Lee had told them that he was in the first floor lunchroom when the president passed by... and they had verified that he was telling the truth
_They did not verify that he was telling the truth. They only verified what he said. True-or-false is up to the court

The Gary Mack time test video advises that they used obstacles placed in the way of their tester

Lee had told them that he was in the first floor lunchroom when the president passed by... and they had verified that he was telling the truth.
 
_They did not verify that he was telling the truth. They only verified what he said. True-or-false is up to the court

Captain Fritz scribbled note says:  " says was in 1st floor lunchroom when president passed by the building. Says two colored employees walked by the lunchroom as he was eating lunch. One called Junior and other short.  CHECK " 

The above is not verbatim but the last word "CHECK" is exactly what Captain Fritz wrote. 

That means he wanted to remind himself to check with Roy Truly to find the two colored employees to verify if Oswald was telling the truth. 

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #269 on: August 18, 2022, 08:01:02 PM »
The museum have a video where they did it in 48 sec in an almost identical warehouse.
And recently i found that someone else had done some kind of test & took 47 sec.

What really happened is the Gang of 4 broke the whole thing down and created a relay team with each one of Alek Hidell, Uh-Oh Lee, Dirty Harvey, and the little prick himself takin' & breakin' a leg.. then shakin' & bakin' any idea that Oswald was in any way innocent

Don't forget the FBI Walking Dead film where they have this short little feller named 'Flash Howlett' who makes zombies look like Carl Lewis. I was half-expecting him to come across a picnic setting then merge into an ad for mattresses.

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« Reply #269 on: August 18, 2022, 08:01:02 PM »


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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #270 on: August 18, 2022, 08:20:42 PM »
Lee had told them that he was in the first floor lunchroom when the president passed by... and they had verified that he was telling the truth.
 
_They did not verify that he was telling the truth. They only verified what he said. True-or-false is up to the court

Captain Fritz scribbled note says:  " says was in 1st floor lunchroom when president passed by the building. Says two colored employees walked by the lunchroom as he was eating lunch. One called Junior and other short.  CHECK " 

The above is not verbatim but the last word "CHECK" is exactly what Captain Fritz wrote. 

That means he wanted to remind himself to check with Roy Truly to find the two colored employees to verify if Oswald was telling the truth.

People walking around to & fro, eating their lunch on the fly
Jarman, Arce and BOOMCLICKCLICK guy outside then getting back upstairs by going around the side/back/ and where is that Oswald/Jarman/Lunchroom again?

Oswald said he ate lunch with 'Junior' and Jarman denied it
Now there's an eyebrow-raiser
« Last Edit: August 18, 2022, 08:31:56 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #271 on: August 18, 2022, 09:22:14 PM »
Lee had told them that he was in the first floor lunchroom when the president passed by... and they had verified that he was telling the truth
_They did not verify that he was telling the truth. They only verified what he said. True-or-false is up to the court

The Gary Mack time test video advises that they used obstacles placed in the way of their tester
Any time test would require that walking was always east-west or north-south only -- no short cuts.
No-one has dunn a test of the possible minimum time -- ie if an Olympic event -- (1) u would need 200' of L (with at least one 90deg corner), (2) plus say 4 lots of 20' of L between flights of stairs (with another 16 by 90deg corners)(once again no short-cuts), (3) plus 8 half-stairs of 9 steps each (72 steps)(going down) -- (4) plus a 10' detour for hiding the Carcano.
Total H dist is say 470' -- at 10'/sec (6.82 mph) thats 47 sec -- i think the 48 sec fast walk would drop to less than half that if running.
The SS re-enactment of 78 sec or whatever it was, is meaningless (6.0'/sec)(4.1 mph) -- not much better than telling us that a snail would need a few days. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52295492164_bf35c99b7a_m.jpg[/img]]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52295492164_bf35c99b7a_m.jpg
« Last Edit: August 19, 2022, 01:35:06 AM by Marjan Rynkiewicz »

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