Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care


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Online Jerry Organ

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Re: Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2022, 04:03:01 PM »
As a conservative Independent,

Here's a fellow who's to the extreme right of most American conservatives. Yet he's an "Independent." Next he'll be telling us he's a "Skeptic" rather than a JFK conspiracy theorist.

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allow me to explain why so many conservatives either accept the Warren Commission's claims or just don't care about the case:

The LNers don't proclaim the WR as if it's Gospel. Whether Right or Left, LNers follow the evidence if it's better and now most believe some things not in the Report, like the first shot missed and the skull inshoot is at the cowlick-level. When the Oswald-Ferrie CAP photo was shown on "Frontline", LNers accepted it rather than contend it was faked.

Compare with American Conservative CTs who think the 9/11 attacks were allowed to happen by the US government.

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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2022, 05:02:20 PM »
In my experience, in general, conservative folks tend to accept the word of authority more readily than liberal folks do.

That may have been once true in the 1960s but no longer.  A sea change with liberals now espousing obedience to governmental authority or else.  It's the conservatives who are questioning what they have been told by the government.
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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2022, 05:05:05 PM »
Here's a fellow who's to the extreme right of most American conservatives. Yet he's an "Independent." Next he'll be telling us he's a "Skeptic" rather than a JFK conspiracy theorist.

The distinction is not difficult. It you have a conspiracy theory, then you are a conspiracy theorist. If you question unsubstantiated claims made by pundits or authority figures, then you’re a skeptic.

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The LNers don't proclaim the WR as if it's Gospel. Whether Right or Left, LNers follow the evidence if it's better

LNers believe whatever is necessary to keep their myth alive.

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Online Michael Walton

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Re: Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2022, 05:11:31 PM »
Just for the fun of it, let's just briefly consider another case. Let's consider the OJ Simpson case. Conservatives and libs alike here - what are your thoughts on the OJ case? Did the prosecutor or defense get it right? Was the jury correct in acquitting him? And whatever your response is, why do you think so?

Online Jerry Organ

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Re: Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2022, 06:55:39 PM »
The distinction is not difficult. It you have a conspiracy theory, then you are a conspiracy theorist. If you question unsubstantiated claims made by pundits or authority figures, then you’re a skeptic.

One can equality be a nonpartisan skeptic when questioning what is for the most part the crackpot absurdity of JFK conspiracy theorists.

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LNers believe whatever is necessary to keep their myth alive.

Spoken like a true conspiracy theorist. LNers are a dangerous monolithic lot to be painted and smeared with a broad brush.

Online Michael Walton

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Re: Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2022, 07:03:23 PM »
Just for the fun of it, let's just briefly consider another case. Let's consider the OJ Simpson case. Conservatives and libs alike here - what are your thoughts on the OJ case? Did the prosecutor or defense get it right? Was the jury correct in acquitting him? And whatever your response is, why do you think so?

Bumping this because no one really ever wants to discuss the merits. It's always you say-I say on here and it's pretty xxxxxxxxx boring.

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Online Joe Elliott

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Re: Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2022, 07:47:14 PM »

A JFK conspiracy will always appeal most to both the far right and the far left. Because an extreme CT position will maintain that democracy was taken over in 1963 and we have since been controlled by a deep state, which uses the threat of assassination to maintain control of the government. If one can get people to believe this, their support for democracy will be greatly diminished. From there it is only a small step to say that no only does a deep state control us today but that a democracy will always be vulnerable to being taken over by such a conspiracy. If this is the case, one might as well accept an authoritarian government, which at least does not rule in secret. Both the far left and the far right would like his, provided the right people are left in charge.

It is always possible for a supporter of democracy to believe in a conspiracy. Particularly if they don’t hold an extreme view, that the conspirators took permanent control of the government in 1963 and have control to this very day. But the CT position will always be most appealing to those on the extreme left and the extreme right and who, deep down, don’t really believe in democracy.

Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2022, 09:33:51 PM »
One can equality be a nonpartisan skeptic when questioning what is for the most part the crackpot absurdity of JFK conspiracy theorists.

Spoken like a true conspiracy theorist. LNers are a dangerous monolithic lot to be painted and smeared with a broad brush.

Sounds like what you are doing with “conspiracy theorist”.

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