Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care

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Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« on: July 20, 2022, 02:31:07 AM »
As a conservative Independent, allow me to explain why so many conservatives either accept the Warren Commission's claims or just don't care about the case:

* Too many conspiracy advocates inject their ultra-left-wing politics into their writings, even though JFK would be a centrist Republican or a Joe Manchin Democrat if he were alive today. Kennedy ordered huge increases in defense spending, pushed for massive tax cuts (including for the rich), appointed numerous moderate and conservative federal judges, and insisted on fiscally responsible budgets.

* Too many conspiracy advocates--nearly all of them--call the Vietnam War "dishonorable," "unwinnable," "unnecessary," etc., when in fact the war was an honorable and winnable war whose goal was to keep 18 million people from falling under communist tyranny. Just because JFK may well have withdrawn U.S. combat troops from Vietnam in 1965 does not mean he would have stood back and done nothing if South Vietnam had begun to suffer serious defeats and appeared to be in danger of falling to the communists.

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* Two recent, and very good, pro-conspiracy books that I recently read took cheap and needless shots at Donald Trump and at Trump voters. One of the books repeated liberal talking points about George Floyd's death, while saying nothing about how Floyd caused the police confrontation in the first place, about the fact that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned but refused to cooperate, about the fact that Floyd fiercely resisted arrest and kicked two of the officers in the process, about Floyd's long criminal record (including armed robbery), about the fact that the defense proved that Chauvin's knee was *not* on Floyd's neck but on his upper back (two prosecution witnesses admitted this under cross examination), about the fact that Floyd may well have died a few hours later because he had ingested nearly four times the lethal dosage of fentanyl, and about Floyd's work as a porn actor (in one movie he had sex with a girl young enough to be his daughter).

* Far too many conspiracy advocates use foul language in their writings and lectures, which is not only in poor taste but turns off many religious conservatives. In one JFK assassination conference that I recently watched, one of the speakers dropped the F-bomb twice and the S-word once, while two others used the S-word. This reinforces the impression that many conservatives have that only immoral, foul-mouthed leftists reject the Warren Commission's findings.

Based on my own experience working as a volunteer for the Trump campaign in 2016 and 2020, I would say that at least 20% of Trump voters believe that JFK was killed by a conspiracy. That's just my own experience. The percentage may be higher, but I seriously doubt that it's lower, based on the many chats I've had with fellow Trump voters.

But I can also tell you that many, many, many conservatives view JFK assassination conspiracy advocates as anti-American, immoral leftists, even though quite a few of them recognize that JFK was somewhat conservative on several issues (tax cuts, fiscal restraint, strong national defense, law and order, cracking down on organized crime, immigration, etc.).





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Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2022, 02:44:05 AM »
I will stay away from the political stuff. But would like to add that in my experience, in general,  conservative folks tend to be more logical. And, in general, liberal folks tend to be more emotional.

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Re: Why So Many Conservatives Accept the WC or Just Don't Care
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2022, 02:51:37 AM »
I will stay away from the political stuff. But would like to add that in my experience, in general, conservative folks tend to be more logical. And, in general, liberal folks tend to be more emotional.

I think it depends on the issue. On some issues conservatives tend to be more emotional, while on other issues liberals tend to be more emotional. But, as a general rule, I would agree that conservatives tend to be more logical and analytical than do liberals.

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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2022, 02:59:57 AM »
I think it depends on the issue. On some issues conservatives tend to be more emotional, while on other issues liberals tend to be more emotional. But, as a general rule, I would agree that conservatives tend to be more logical and analytical than do liberals.


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Edit: I think that JFK, with his background and education, understood how to use (and did use) logic better than say LBJ did. And that is one of the reasons why many people believe that LBJ was more liberal than JFK.
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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2022, 03:00:55 AM »
I will stay away from the political stuff. But would like to add that in my experience, in general,  conservative folks tend to be more logical. And, in general, liberal folks tend to be more emotional.

The "Oswald did it alone" theory is far more an emotional one than a logical one.

I think it depends on the issue. On some issues conservatives tend to be more emotional, while on other issues liberals tend to be more emotional. But, as a general rule, I would agree that conservatives tend to be more logical and analytical than do liberals.

It's highly illogical to make such a generalized statement
« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 03:04:01 AM by Martin Weidmann »

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Online Dan O'meara

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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2022, 03:19:36 AM »
I will stay away from the political stuff. But would like to add that in my experience, in general,  conservative folks tend to be more logical. And, in general, liberal folks tend to be more emotional.

In my experience, in general, conservative folks tend to accept the word of authority more readily than liberal folks do.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2022, 03:26:37 AM »
In my experience, in general, conservative folks tend to accept the word of authority more readily than liberal folks do.

Why do you think that is the case?

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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2022, 03:33:00 AM »
Why do you think that is the case?

Because they usually represent the authority in question.

Why do you think conservatives are more logical?

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2022, 03:48:52 AM »

Why do you think conservatives are more logical?



One of the most intelligent persons that I have ever known told me so almost 50-years ago. And, since then, I have found from my own experiences that it is true (in general).

Edit:  By the way, this person was a conservative (politically speaking). However, this person most definitely didnít accept the word of authorities just because they were in that position. (It would have to make sense before it was accepted.)
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2022, 03:55:52 AM »


One of the most intelligent persons that I have ever known told me so almost 50-years ago. And, since then, I have found from my own experiences that it is true (in general).

You do, of course, realise how illogical this answer is?
Unless the logic was to avoid the point I made about how conservative folks tend to blindly accept authority.

 

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