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How do LNers explain the white patch?
« on: July 12, 2022, 01:28:28 AM »
I don't think I have heard LNers talk about the white patch on JFKs lateral x-ray. I have not read the HSCA volume on this. Do LNers have an explanation for it, especially in light of Dr. Mantiks optical densitometry readings in which he found that the patch is so dense its as if JFK had solid bone going from one side of his head to the other right where that white patch is.

Is this white patch an artifact due to the "enhancement" process the HSCA did on the x-ray or is it something LNers genuinely have not come up with an explanation for?

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How do LNers explain the white patch?
« on: July 12, 2022, 01:28:28 AM »

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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2022, 02:14:21 PM »
I don't think I have heard LNers talk about the white patch on JFKs lateral x-ray. I have not read the HSCA volume on this. Do LNers have an explanation for it, especially in light of Dr. Mantiks optical densitometry readings in which he found that the patch is so dense its as if JFK had solid bone going from one side of his head to the other right where that white patch is.

Is this white patch an artifact due to the "enhancement" process the HSCA did on the x-ray or is it something LNers genuinely have not come up with an explanation for?

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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2022, 02:37:51 PM »
'something LNers genuinely have not come up with an explanation for?'
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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2022, 02:37:51 PM »

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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2022, 02:46:10 PM »
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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2022, 02:48:13 AM »
I don't think I have heard LNers talk about the white patch on JFKs lateral x-ray. I have not read the HSCA volume on this. Do LNers have an explanation for it, especially in light of Dr. Mantiks optical densitometry readings in which he found that the patch is so dense its as if JFK had solid bone going from one side of his head to the other right where that white patch is.

Is this white patch an artifact due to the "enhancement" process the HSCA did on the x-ray or is it something LNers genuinely have not come up with an explanation for?

The white patch is even more problematic than you indicate. Mantik also studied dozens of normal x-rays of his oncology patients to see if any of them showed anything even close to the kind of density indicated by the white patch. He could not find a single one that did so.

An equally serious problem with the x-rays is the large black area in the front, indicating that there's virtually nothing there--no brain, no nothing--which sharply contradicts the alleged photos and drawings of the brain and the autopsy photos of the face.

To grasp the full scope of the problems posed by the white patch, watch one of Dr. Mantik's video discussions on it. Here's one of the better ones:

(discussion on the white patch starts at about 43:30)

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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2022, 05:49:34 AM »
An equally serious problem with the x-rays is the large black area in the front, indicating that there's virtually nothing there--no brain, no nothing--which sharply contradicts the alleged photos and drawings of the brain and the autopsy photos of the face.

Actually the black area is not as big a problem. The bone in the temple area is much thinner than the rest of the skull, this is why it shows as black. There is bone there and Dr Chessor was able to make out the suture lines of the bones in this black area. I just wonder was the settings on the x-ray machine off somewhat and it made thin bone appear even thinner (and hence blacker) than it should have and thick bone appear even thicker (and hence whiter) than it should have been.

Jerrol Custor was using an odd method of having two x-ray cassettes in his machine for each x-ray in the hope that if one didn't come out right, the other would. This sounds like an amateurish job. I would have thought he should just have had one cassette and made sure he got that one right than depending on two "in case one didn't come out right". Custor was filling in for someone more senior than him who had a date with a girl that night. So he was not a first-rate x-ray technician.

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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2022, 10:10:56 PM »
Of course, another key fact about the white patch is that it covers a good part of the area that over 40 witnesses said was missing.

The white patch may also have been put there to conceal the low fragment trail described in the autopsy report. The autopsy doctors described a trail of fragments that went from the EOP entry site to a point just above the right eye. No such fragment trail appears on the extant x-rays.

The only fragment trail visible on the x-rays is the one several inches higher near the top of the skull. We are asked to believe that the autopsy doctors not only mislocated the rear head entry wound by a staggering 4 inches but mistook a fragment trail at the top of the head for a trail that began at the EOP and went to the right eye.

Of course, also asked to believe that the autopsy doctors did not notice the most obvious apparent bullet fragment on the skull x-rays: the 6.5 mm object. Or, we are asked to believe that they saw it but for some reason did not remove it and omitted it from the autopsy report. As most here know, the 6.5 mm object has now been determined by optical density measurements to be a forged image ghosted over a much smaller actual fragment. Dr. Mantik has even be able to duplicate how the forgery was done.
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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2022, 09:18:48 PM »
This is a prime example of an issue that WC apologists are simply unable to explain and that they therefore ignore. The white patch is over 1,000 times brighter than the same area in a normal skull x-ray. Equally suspicious is that the white patch's location covers most of the area of the right-rear part of the skull where dozens of witnesses reported seeing a large wound. Another suspicious aspect of the patch is its size and shape: it is relatively oval and about 3 inches in diameter at its widest point.

The brightness of the white patch means that the bone in that area is far, far thicker than the bone in the same area on human skulls, an obvious impossibility. Tellingly, no such patch appears on any of JFK's pre-mortem x-rays.

Of course, the white patch is clear evidence of alteration. But WC apologists will never admit this because they are not interested in facts but in defending the lone-gunman myth.

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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2022, 10:19:59 PM »
This is a prime example of an issue that WC apologists are simply unable to explain and that they therefore ignore. The white patch is over 1,000 times brighter than the same area in a normal skull x-ray. Equally suspicious is that the white patch's location covers most of the area of the right-rear part of the skull where dozens of witnesses reported seeing a large wound. Another suspicious aspect of the patch is its size and shape: it is relatively oval and about 3 inches in diameter at its widest point.

The brightness of the white patch means that the bone in that area is far, far thicker than the bone in the same area on human skulls, an obvious impossibility. Tellingly, no such patch appears on any of JFK's pre-mortem x-rays.

Of course, the white patch is clear evidence of alteration. But WC apologists will never admit this because they are not interested in facts but in defending the lone-gunman myth.

Could it be the rubber patch the autopsy doctors said was put on the right rear of JFK's skull because bone was missing in that area? I wonder how the type of rubber that was used shows up on x ray.

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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
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Re: How do LNers explain the white patch?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2022, 01:50:11 PM »
Could it be the rubber patch the autopsy doctors said was put on the right rear of JFK's skull because bone was missing in that area? I wonder how the type of rubber that was used shows up on x ray.

Rubber would not have the optical density that the white patch has. Dr. Mantik and Dr. Chesser have actually discovered how the white patch was created: it was made via double exposure.

If the white patch were authentic, it would mean that the area extending from the patch to the other side of the skull was almost solid bone, and that this bone had nearly the same density as the petrous bone, the densest bone in the body. It goes without saying that both propositions are medically impossible--well, unless JFK was born with a severely deformed skull that had a 3-inch-diameter bone that ran from one side of the skull to the other, that ran from side to side from an area behind the ears that consisted of part of the parietal bone and part of the occipital bone.

The white patch occupies most of the region that dozens of witnesses said contained a large hole. Some medical personnel who saw the wound said that cerebellar tissue was visible in the wound, which is important because cerebellar tissue is easily distinguished from other brain tissue and is located only in the back of the head.

The white patch may also have been intended to conceal the fragment trail that the autopsy doctors said ran from slightly above the EOP to just above the right eye. No such fragment trail is visible on the extant x-rays. Equally suspicious is the fact that the autopsy doctors made no mention of the fragment trail at the top of the head, even though it is readily visible even to a layman. The only innocent explanation for these facts is that all three autopsy doctors made the mind-boggling "mistake" of mistaking the fragment trail at the top of the head for a fragment trail that began at the EOP.

Why didn't the autopsy doctors mention the high fragment trail, the one just below the top of the skull? Because two fragment trails--the high trail and the trail starting at the EOP--meant that two bullets hit the skull. Since they found the EOP entrance wound, they could not link that wound to a fragment trail several inches higher. So, the high fragment trail had to be ignored.

When the conspirators altered the x-rays after the autopsy, they realized the same problem, in addition to the enormous problem that the EOP entry wound could not have come from the sixth-floor window unless Kennedy had been leaning forward by some 60 degrees. So, the low fragment trail had to be concealed, and the EOP entry wound had to be moved up by several inches to at least appear to line up with the high fragment trail.


 

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