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Offline Jim Hawthorn

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« Reply #80 on: July 17, 2022, 10:50:10 PM »
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Anyone could have been walking up or down the stairs or using the lift at that moment
_ The attitude of an underachiever right there, ppl
   Better not take risks; something might go wrong
   FFS, Jim
 

Surely you don't think that he remained in that little room until 2 minutes before the (late) motorcade came by then went up to take a shot? :D

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Online Dan O'meara

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« Reply #81 on: July 17, 2022, 11:56:24 PM »
Oswald in the lunchroom at 12:25 is not an invention of LNers. They're just saying that IF Oswald was in the lunchroom at that time, it doesn't mean he couldn't have made it upstairs in time for the sgooting.

And you're the only one claiming Oswald would call off the assassination if he merely encountered someone on his way up. And Oswald "zoomed" back down. There's plenty ludicrous alright.

As all LNers know, the problem with Oswald being on the first floor around 12:25pm is that Arnold Rowland had spotted the man with the rifle on the 6th floor ten minutes earlier.

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« Reply #82 on: July 18, 2022, 12:09:05 AM »
As all LNers know, the problem with Oswald being on the first floor around 12:25pm is that Arnold Rowland had spotted the man with the rifle on the 6th floor ten minutes earlier.

Lee just loved going up and down that lift (naughty boy).

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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #83 on: July 18, 2022, 12:18:04 AM »
Surely you don't think that he remained in that little room until 2 minutes before the (late) motorcade came by then went up to take a shot? :D

You're asking to defend some loon's idea that Oswald was in the lunchroom minutes before the assassination, when no LNer even promoted anything so ludicrous? And somehow it now takes Oswald two minutes to get through the lunchroom door (he can't leave the lunchroom closer to the alleged 12:25 time when Norman/Jarman went into the building?).

Why would Oswald care if anyone was on the stairs or even on the sixth floor when he went there? If they weren't in the Sniper's Nest, then no problem. He left his prints all over the SN and on the rifle he owned and left behind. He was no doubt surprised he got out of the building alive. To celebrate his lease on life, Ol' Os' done went and murdered a policeman

Those are the actions of a lone killer who's remaining options (as he saw it) were death by policeman, being murdered by another prisoner while awaiting trial, suicide or state execution.

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« Reply #84 on: July 18, 2022, 12:29:55 AM »
You're asking to defend some loon's idea that Oswald was in the lunchroom minutes before the assassination, when no LNer even promoted anything so ludicrous? And somehow it now takes Oswald two minutes to get through the lunchroom door (he can't leave the lunchroom closer to the alleged 12:25 time when Norman/Jarman went into the building?).

Where do you get 12:25? And how does he get back up to the sixth floor while Norman, Jarman, and Williams are going to their spots on the fifth floor without any of them seeing or hearing him? And who did Rowland see at 12:15?

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Why would Oswald care if anyone was on the stairs or even on the sixth floor when he went there? If they weren't in the Sniper's Nest, then no problem. He left his prints all over the SN

 BS: You don’t know when those prints were put on those boxes.

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and on the rifle he owned and left behind.

BS:
- you don’t know he owned it
- you don’t know he left it behind
- there were prints in the trigger guard area that were insufficient for identification purposes and a single partial palmprint showed up a week later on an index card

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He was no doubt surprised he got out of the building alive. To celebrate his lease on life, Ol' Os' done went and murdered a policeman

Cool story, bro.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 12:30:38 AM by John Iacoletti »

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« Reply #85 on: July 18, 2022, 12:46:04 AM »
As all LNers know, the problem with Oswald being on the first floor around 12:25pm is that Arnold Rowland had spotted the man with the rifle on the 6th floor ten minutes earlier.

Would you bet the farm on Rowiand?
I'd wager that his wife wouldn't

Offline Jim Hawthorn

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« Reply #86 on: July 18, 2022, 09:05:59 AM »
Why would Oswald care if anyone was on the stairs or even on the sixth floor when he went there? If they weren't in the Sniper's Nest, then no problem.
Nonsense. He was down in the Domino room and for all he knew, anybody could have been up on the 6th floor at that moment! You have him going up there with that in mind, after having planned the assassination in a calculated way. You have Oswald casually going up to the 6th floor, simply hoping (or not caring) that people might see him on the stairs or in the lift or arriving on the 6th to take up position. Christ, you'll really stretch things into a looney universe in order to hang on to your unworkabe lone nut theory.

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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #87 on: July 18, 2022, 08:40:02 PM »
Nonsense. He was down in the Domino room and for all he knew, anybody could have been up on the 6th floor at that moment! You have him going up there with that in mind, after having planned the assassination in a calculated way. You have Oswald casually going up to the 6th floor, simply hoping (or not caring) that people might see him on the stairs or in the lift or arriving on the 6th to take up position. Christ, you'll really stretch things into a looney universe in order to hang on to your unworkabe lone nut theory.

"Looney universe" is when someone turns a CT theory (Oswald in the Domino Room at 12:25/26) into an LN theory. Then they take the four minutes between the alleged sighting of Norman/Jarman on the first floor and the shooting, and magically condense it to two minutes.

Than throw in Arnold Rowland's incredible claims and Oswald's "zooming" downstairs. Like such myth-spinning and dramatics would substitute for the "Warren Report" and books like "Case Closed", "JFK First Day Evidence" and "Reclaiming History"?