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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2022, 05:00:46 AM »
Here is the source of the horse crap...
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/O%20Disk/Oltmans%20Willem%20Leonard/Item%2020.pdf
Nothing all that 'fuzzy' with the newspaper clipping.

Also states that George DeMorenschidlt was one of the conspirators. However--- interesting that the HSCA had no apparent interest in the search of the contents of the house where he died [reportedly a suicide]
Funny that the article states that... Why would oil men want to kill Kennedy?
'Accepts' the claim BTW that Oswald killed JFK because he was disappointed in American life.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2022, 12:50:13 PM »
Your question is not germane. If you had given my reply the proper attention you would know that the HSCA experts didn't have a facsimile copy at their disposal. They had a photograph of an out-of-focus facsimile copy.

Of course my question is germane. You just don't like it.

When it is the FBI's position that "without the original it would be almost impossible to certify whether it is genuine or not", then it doesn't matter if we are talking about a photo copy from a micro film or a photograph of a facsimile copy.

Besides, if the FBI received the original from Hunt, as Walt tells us, then the HSCA could have obtained the original from them, if they wanted to.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2022, 02:06:00 PM »
Of course my question is germane. You just don't like it.

When it is the FBI's position that "without the original it would be almost impossible to certify whether it is genuine or not", then it doesn't matter if we are talking about a photo copy from a micro film or a photograph of a facsimile copy.

Besides, if the FBI received the original from Hunt, as Walt tells us, then the HSCA could have obtained the original from them, if they wanted to.

The FBI declined to directly comment on the (Hunt) letter's authenticity.


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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2022, 03:09:49 PM »
what they had at their disposal was a photograph of an out-of-focus facsimile copy of the letter.

In his book HL Hunt's personal aide said that Mr Hunt gave the "Dear Mr Hunt" note directly to the FBI.
Actually, Currington stated that Hunt 'instructed' him to turn the note over.
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One of the incidents Currington shared dealt with the infamous Hunt letter. According to Currington, the letter actually showed up in Hunt's interoffice mail system shortly after the assassination. Currington was instructed by Hunt to turn it over to the FBI. Currington's view is that Hunt feared that Oswald was possibly a listener to his Life Line radio program or was a reader of Facts Forum, his right wing newsletter. Both of these vehicles spread his pro-fascist and racists views as well as his hatred of Kennedy. There is evidence that Currington had previously produced a copy of the Hunt letter, published in the National Enquirer, in the 1970's soon after Hunt's death

  If this is true, and there is no reason for Currington to make it up, that means that the note was certainly written to H.L. Hunt and not E. Howard Hunt. It also means that the KGB couldn't have forged it to embarrass the CIA during the Watergate fiasco since the letter had already been in existence since 1963. Thus it was written before the assassination and not forged later. Further, it confirms that the FBI kept it secret for fourteen years! One wonders if the CIA leaked it to the press at a time when they were under fire for Watergate and accusations were surfacing that they were involved in the assassination, to take the heat off themselves and shift it to the Texas oil men.
  MORE....
https://www.theotheroswald.com/post/the-mr-hunt-letter-revisited-by-gary-hill     

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2022, 06:54:45 PM »
The FBI declined to directly comment on the (Hunt) letter's authenticity.

Yes, they did and according to the article this was the reason why;

The FBI said without the original letter it would be "almost impossible to certify whether it is genuine or not," the Justice Department source said.

"And they' (FBI) said "that Oswald has a childlike handwriting and it's easily forged, the source said, "so they
just can't tell.


Care to try again, Tim?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2022, 07:44:27 PM »
Actually, Currington stated that Hunt 'instructed' him to turn the note over.  MORE....
https://www.theotheroswald.com/post/the-mr-hunt-letter-revisited-by-gary-hill   

Thanks for the great post, Jerry....  I believe the links you provided are much closer to the truth than the Warren Report....

Why would HL Hunt want Hoover to have the "Dear Mr Hunt" letter ???    Because he wanted J. Edgar Hoover to know that he (HL Hunt) was the Kingpin.....  And the man that Hoover should reward for the assassination of JFK.  Hunt wanted Hoover to know that it was he who had set Oswald up as the scapegoat. 

Like all assassins, who believe they are doing a great service to their country .... Hunt believed that JFK was destroying America
and said that "the Kennedy's have to go"....   Hunt had the power and the money to eliminate those he hated....And like all assassins he wanted someone to know that he was to be credited.   ( Lee Oswald repeatedly denied that he had killed anybody)
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2022, 12:55:41 AM »
Yes, they did and according to the article this was the reason why;

The FBI said without the original letter it would be "almost impossible to certify whether it is genuine or not," the Justice Department source said.

"And they' (FBI) said "that Oswald has a childlike handwriting and it's easily forged, the source said, "so they
just can't tell.


Care to try again, Tim?

The FBI declined to directly comment on the (Hunt) letter's authenticity.

Why are you having trouble understanding that? We have nothing directly from the FBI on the letter. All we have is an unnamed source, reported by Earl Golz, that said that the FBI said some things.

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2022, 01:16:12 AM »
The FBI declined to directly comment on the (Hunt) letter's authenticity.

Why are you having trouble understanding that? We have nothing directly from the FBI on the letter. All we have is an unnamed source, reported by Earl Golz, that said that the FBI said some things.

I understand perfectly. On the one hand you want to use part of the quote in the article to somehow make the point that the FBI declined to comment directly (as if that means anything significant), while at the same time you want to dismiss the information in the article as coming from an unnamed source.

When you quote from the article, I can do the same.

The FBI said without the original letter it would be "almost impossible to certify whether it is genuine or not," the Justice Department source said.

Why are you having trouble understanding that without an original copy it would be almost impossible to certify whether the document is genuine or not?

The latter, btw, is what all the handwriting experts I have spoken to over the years have all said.

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