Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #160 on: July 30, 2022, 04:51:28 AM »
Prizes for guessing which stairway on the first floor--------------front or rear?--------------Mr Truly and Officer Baker actually took after running in the front door!



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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #162 on: July 30, 2022, 01:52:03 PM »
Yes, it was a HSCA interview.

http://www.prayer-man.com/billy-lovelady-hsca-interview/

Lovelady lied in his WC testimony about entering the west door with Shelley.
Shelley lied in his WC testimony about entering the west door with Lovelady.
Both men lied about how long it was before they left the TSBD building steps.
Both Martin and Hughes filmed Lovelady outside the TSBD building around ten minutes after the assassination.
Lovelady didn't re-enter the TSBD building for 20-25 minutes - these are his own words.
The encounter with Adams running down the stairs seconds after the assassination did not happen.
Adams insists her testimony was altered in this regard.
Styles confirms this.
Garner confirms both women left the fourth floor almost immediately.

No it was not.

This was always Grodin's pet project. Who authorized them to go find Bill Lovelady and interview him about anything? Were they actually even talking to Lovelady? There is a question about the authenticity of Lovelady's signature on some signed documents.

You need a better list with a little more research behind it. Start with Adams and Styles never left the first floor until approximately 12:35. That fits the WC statements and Affidavits. That is what the WC learned from Adams's testimony

Garner did not confirm a thing.

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #163 on: July 30, 2022, 02:00:05 PM »
Oh lordy, Mr Nessan. Are you actually suggesting that the words 'TOP SECRET' stamped on those documents have been deceptively added by me, Mr Ernest, or some other CTer??

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Are you suggesting the WC did? For what reason? They did not have anything else to do?

Adams told Barry Ernest the only issue she had with the official WC transcript was grammar and spelling.

You aleady stated all the additions to the official transcript were your nonsense. Except for the change from "it" to "there". That was Adams.


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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #164 on: July 30, 2022, 02:09:34 PM »
Because the transcript she was shown was not the same as the transcript that went into the record. I have already explained how easily this could have been done.

And---------of course----------we know that the reason she was given a chance to make corrections in the first place had nothing to do with getting an accurate version of her testimony for the record-------------------none of her changes were incorporated!

So?

So?

Your opinion is now taking on the status of a fact?

The WC proved they left later than they thought, approximately 5 minutes later. That is in the official record. Styles affidavit confirms their encounters and their return to the front of the building.

Instead of engaging in this CT circle jerk maybe try reading and then try comprehending a little.

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #165 on: July 30, 2022, 02:32:34 PM »
Are you suggesting the WC did? For what reason? They did not have anything else to do?

~Grin~

Are you, or are you not, claiming that the words 'TOP SECRET' have been fraudulently added to each page of the document by someone not involved in the official curation of the document? Yes or no?

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Adams told Barry Ernest the only issue she had with the official WC transcript was grammar and spelling.

Nonsense! She told Mr Ernest she had major issues with the version of her WC testimony that was published. It was different to the transcript she had been asked to make corrections to----the transcript whose only issues involved grammar, punctuation & spelling.

And the fact that all of her changes were ignored proves that the purpose of getting her to make corrections had nothing to do with getting the published version of her testimony as accurate as possible. She had already waived the right to make corrections, yet they insisted on her making them nonetheless----------because they needed her handwriting on a number of pages in order to work their scam.

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You aleady stated all the additions to the official transcript were your nonsense.

Nope! I have demonstrated how easy it was to pull the scam on the unsuspecting Ms Adams  Thumb1:

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Except for the change from "it" to "there". That was Adams.

Like I say, this is the entire basis upon which you brand Ms Adams a liar..................



So-----------over to you with your proof that no one else could possibly have written this one little word in!  Thumb1:

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #166 on: July 30, 2022, 02:38:36 PM »
The WC proved they left later than they thought, approximately 5 minutes later.

It was in all likelihood Officer Eugene Welcome Barnett whom Ms Adams & Ms Styles encountered when they came off the loading dock and ran out just past the first railroad track



And it may well have been Officer Barnett too whom Ms Adams had words with at the front door a few minutes later:

Mr. Liebeler.
How long do you think it was from the time the last shot was fired until the time you were at the front door keeping people from going in and out?
Mr. Barnett.
It was around 2 1/2 minutes. Maybe between 2 1/2 or 3 minutes.
Mr. Liebeler.
From the time the last shot was fired until the time you were standing at that front door?
Mr. Barnett.
Yes.


Don't cry, Mr Nessan, but your silly little Warren Gullible timeline is DOA!  Thumb1:
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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #167 on: July 30, 2022, 02:40:32 PM »
No it was not.

This was always Grodin's pet project. Who authorized them to go find Bill Lovelady and interview him about anything? Were they actually even talking to Lovelady? There is a question about the authenticity of Lovelady's signature on some signed documents.

Good grief, poor Mr Nessan appears to have lost it altogether...............  ::)

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« Reply #167 on: July 30, 2022, 02:40:32 PM »


 

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