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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #112 on: July 21, 2022, 12:54:29 AM »
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If he wasn't being set up as the patsy then obviously, no problem with him being down there. The problem is, he was set up as the 6th floor patsy by the conspirators.

How do you know that?

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #113 on: July 21, 2022, 01:50:46 AM »
“Indistinguishable” is pretty meaningless when there’s nothing distinctive in the available images.

Besides, we can’t know for a fact that this Carcano rifle was involved in the assassination at all, much less who was in involved in getting it there.

It is an extraordinary coincidence that Oswald was photographed holding a Mannlicher Carcano and a Mannlicher Carcano was filmed being removed from it's hiding place on the 6th floor.

It was lucky they decided to randomly frame Oswald.

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #114 on: July 21, 2022, 08:15:14 AM »
How do you know that?

This:

It is an extraordinary coincidence that Oswald was photographed holding a Mannlicher Carcano and a Mannlicher Carcano was filmed being removed from it's hiding place on the 6th floor.

It was lucky they decided to randomly frame Oswald.

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #115 on: July 21, 2022, 01:16:59 PM »
It is an extraordinary coincidence that Oswald was photographed holding a Mannlicher Carcano and a Mannlicher Carcano was filmed being removed from it's hiding place on the 6th floor.

It was lucky they decided to randomly frame Oswald.

So by “indistinguishable”, you mean they both look like Mannlicher Carcanos to you in fuzzy, indistinct images.

Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #116 on: July 21, 2022, 01:56:14 PM »
Where's the double standard? Mr Oswald never claimed he exchanged words with Messrs Jarman & Norman

As we have known since 2019, Captain Fritz suppressed Mr Oswald's all-important claim to have gone outside to watch the P. Parade. And he suppressed Mr Oswald's claim to have been stopped at the front door by an officer. He lied through his teeth

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How are you sure of that he did not. The whole basis of this thread is Fritz lied. Even this post is about Fritz lied. Back to the double standard?

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #117 on: July 21, 2022, 01:58:32 PM »
Kindly answer the question, Mr Nessan---------which document are you saying was "completely fabricated"?

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If you can produce anything that legitimately backs up your claims that would be new. If you are so sure of the Stroud document by all means elaborate. Impeach Adams's WC Statement. How about elaborate on the similarities of Holmes and Fritz's LHO interviews and everyone in between.

This thread appears to be nothing more than mindless ramblings and discombobulated thoughts about Adams, Shelley, and Lovelady.





Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #118 on: July 21, 2022, 03:14:32 PM »
This:

So maybe he's being set up not as sixth-floor gunman but as having owned & supplied rifle used.

Connection to Commie => Commie connection => boom!

If the conspirators wanted to frame him as the Lone Nut sixth-floor shooter, they went about it in a weirdly underwhelming way........

And if, as you believe, a Mauser was found on the sixth floor, how would this be part of a plot to frame Mr Oswald as the Lone Nut sixth-floor shooter?
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #119 on: July 21, 2022, 03:20:38 PM »
How are you sure of that he did not. The whole basis of this thread is Fritz lied. Even this post is about Fritz lied. Back to the double standard?

Oh but we know for a fact that Capt. Fritz---------and not just Captain Fritz----------lied about what Mr Oswald said. Or maybe you're going to suggest that this document is "completely fabricated" too?