Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2022, 10:00:44 AM »
Here's Mr Lovelady in Hughes (just behind Mr Carl Edward Jones):



Look closely, and you will see a figure in blue behind him, closer to the center of the doorway.

Who can it be? It can't be Mr Buell Wesley Frazier, who is not in blue. I believe it's Mr Shelley.

A few seconds later, and Mr Lovelady has moved over to the center of the doorway and back up a few steps. Just behind him, I believe, is Mr Shelley:



Now cf!:



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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2022, 10:11:59 AM »
So!

If the scenario I have outlined in this thread is correct, then it follows that Prayer Man in Darnell is not Mr Oswald. He had already left the steps and was way west by the time Darnell filmed those frames.

So who might Prayer Man in Darnell be?

I believe it may in fact be Ms Carolyn Arnold, whom Mr Shelley in his March 64 FBI statement names as one of the people on the steps at the time of the shooting:



She may have been the young woman whom Mr Ronald Fischer noticed going into the building just before the motorcade arrived in Dealey Plaza.



She was six months pregnant, and may have wished to get out of the sun.

Because everyone on the steps was intently awaiting the motorcade, Ms Arnold's arrival there went all but unnoticed (only Mr Shelley, who ended up standing beside her, noticed).

She had noticed Mr Oswald up in the lunchroom several minutes before this. And as she now went up the steps to get into the shade, she noticed him again: standing behind the glass door. The FBI will see to it that this sighting is reflected in her FBI interview report, but they will grossly distort the true time and circumstances. This gives them insurance lest she go public with her story: 'She told us something different, now she's changing her story for sensational effect.'

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2022, 10:16:31 AM »
And here (I believe) is Mr Lovelady still on the steps in Darnell, and hearing about what has happened from Ms Gloria Calvery-----------the same Ms Gloria Calvery whom Mr Shelley has already encountered out by the corner of the 'park'.



Mr Shelley is nowhere to be seen in Darnell. He has left the steps and gone west with Mr Oswald.

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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2022, 01:49:49 AM »
Mr. BALL - You went to the concrete between the two Elm Streets?
Mr. SHELLEY - Yes, where they split.


If Mr Shelley is telling the geographical truth here, but pretending he went out there with Mr Lovelady rather than with Mr Oswald, then this may be Mr Oswald out there, in white teeshirt:



Imagine if this is indeed Mr Oswald, but we were getting a clearer/closer image of him than Darnell is giving us here. You see how the issue of Mr Lovelady's upper garment would become life-or-death for the survival of the official story...............

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2022, 02:16:32 AM »
And this may be Mr Shelley, his focus already turned away from the main street as he notices Officer Baker head for the front steps............



Mr Lovelady will notice Officer Baker too--------------only NOT from out on the concrete divider------------->Officer Baker is about to dash past him on the steps!

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2022, 02:21:39 AM »


In a few seconds' time, Mr Shelley and (following him) Mr Oswald will start moving west down the dead-end street as far as the first railroad track:


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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2022, 02:31:07 AM »
Mr. FRITZ. Well he told me that he was eating lunch with some of the employees when this happened,



 and that he saw all the excitement..............


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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2022, 02:47:31 AM »
Mr Shelley & Mr Lovelady's undoing?
Their absurd claim that they
a) both stayed on the front steps long enough to hear Ms Gloria Calvery come up and tell what had happened
AND
b) were already out at the concrete street divider when Mr Truly and the officer started up those front steps!

In reality,

-------------Mr Shelley encountered Ms Calvery out at the corner of that street divider, BEFORE she reached the steps:


-------------Mr Lovelady did not follow Mr Shelley off the steps but stayed there:


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