Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2022, 06:56:29 AM »
Which brings us to this ridiculous, naturalistically impossible 'shadow' down Mr Lovelady's side in the Wiegman film:



We know beyond any doubt that, at the time this image was taken, Mr Lovelady was in fact facing into full direct sunlight.

But why would a fake shadow need to be added? To hide a simple but---------on the scenario outlined on this thread----------dangerous detail:

Mr Lovelady was in long sleeves

Sans fake shadow, Wiegman would have put the lie to this little charade:



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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2022, 07:04:08 AM »
On this scenario:

Mr Lovelady's innocent presence on the front steps, and his innocent resemblance to Mr Oswald, meant that-------------through no fault of his own-------------he was used to help deprive Mr Oswald of a clearer-than-clearest-day alibi

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2022, 07:18:33 AM »
Still on this scenario:

What if Mr Shelley tells the 'investigating' authorities that
-----Mr Oswald was definitely not in long sleeves
-----however, he cannot be 100% sure whether Mr Oswald was wearing a white tshirt only or the reddish shirt he wore to work that day over his white tshirt



This is a potential headache! What if a color Dealey Plaza aftermath photograph or film should turn up showing Shelley+LHO together in the background?

Least worst solution: spread bets by giving Mr Lovelady a red-and-white striped short sleeved shirt. Should the worst come to the worst, 'photoanalyst experts' can be found to explain to the unwashed masses how colors can seem to wash into one another at long range. If the man with Mr Shelley looks to be in white, then the red of Mr Lovelady's claimed shirt can be explained away; if in red, then the white can be explained away.

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2022, 07:27:36 AM »
With the passage of time, worry about a Dealey Plaza aftermath image of Shelley+LHO recedes. Mr Lovelady is now free to 'clarify' the issue of his upper garment. And he loses his paranoia about being photographed:


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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2022, 07:35:38 AM »
But there is one more shock in store for the poor man.

In November 1976, he is interviewed for the HSCA. All is going well until near the end of the interview, when Mr Robert Groden hits him with the Martin film, which shows Mr Lovelady out on the steps plenty minutes after the assassination:



Mr Lovelady goes to pieces. His story of leaving the steps with Mr Shelley and re-entering the building by the west door is blown. He finally admits the truth: he didn't in fact re-enter the building until 20-25 minutes after the shooting.

Nobody but Mr Lovelady realises it, but this is WAY more dangerous than all the crazy hooplah over Doorwayman in Altgens.

In January 1979, Mr Lovelady dies aged 41 of a heart attack.

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2022, 09:04:45 AM »
Still on this scenario:

The fact that Mr Oswald was seen dashing off those front steps very soon after the shots rang out reached the ears of Chief Jesse Curry, who related the fact later that day in garbled fashion------------------



"Oswald rushed out"

Chief Curry is erroneously combining Mr Oswald's 12:30 dash from the steps (following Mr Shelley) with his later front-door encounter with Lt. Kaminski. It is possible he has also heard word of Officer Baker's first-floor sighting of Mr Oswald (Mr Ochus Campbell's storage room report), and is putting 2+2 together to make 5 because of the fact that Officer Baker dashed into the building just after the shooting.

By next day, all of this will be cleaned up into a single second-floor lunchroom encounter---------------a fictional incident whose purpose is to disappear Mr Oswald's alibi, and whose location has its origin in what Mr Oswald actually told Captain Fritz:



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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2022, 09:18:12 AM »
Here is Mr Oswald (blue arrow) being brought into the Homicide Office in handcuffs:



Mr Lovelady is sitting on a chair, watching on.

Mr Oswald cannot immediately be brought into the small back room, because Mr Shelley is in there (purple arrow). He is giving his first affidavit, freely telling of his encounter with Ms Gloria Calvery out by the corner of the 'park'.

He will be asked to give a second affidavit, this one treating of the man who has just been brought in as a suspect.

Like Mr Oswald, Mr Shelley will honestly state that he went outside to watch the P. Parade:



But then his statement will be carefully worded so as to omit a key interval of time containing the simple sequence of events that clears Mr Oswald of the shooting:



What's been left out? Why the several minutes between being outside on the front steps and being back inside the building 'checking around' for employees.

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Re: Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2022, 09:38:19 AM »


Has residual evidence of a sudden, downward movement managed to survive in the pre-penultimate and penultimate doorway frames of the publicly available Wiegman film? With the shadow-requiring Mr Lovelady now out of the picture, have the 'investigators' gotten sloppy in their doctoring and let a dangerous detail slip through?

Is this the moment Mr Shelley started to make his dash?


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