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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2022, 01:26:48 AM »
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According to Robert Oswald (in his book) LHO was home on leave around the end of February 1957. And they went hunting for squirrels. LHO was the only one who shot anything. It turned out to be a ring-tailed cat. These are related to the raccoon family and only grow to be between 1.5 and 3.3 pounds. Robert doesn’t elaborate on all the details and circumstances. But, generally speaking, one needs to be a pretty good shot to hit such a small animal in the wild.

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2022, 01:29:33 AM »
Oswald flaunts his commie papers, pistol on the hip, scoped rifle... maybe a smirk or two.
He's going for a look.. a 'vibe'

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2022, 01:36:04 AM »
According to Robert Oswald (in his book) LHO was home on leave around the end of February 1957. And they went hunting for squirrels. LHO was the only one who shot anything. It turned out to be a ring-tailed cat. These are related to the raccoon family and only grow to be between 1.5 and 3.3 pounds. Robert doesn’t elaborate on all the details and circumstances. But, generally speaking, one needs to be a pretty good shot to hit such a small animal in the wild.

But, generally speaking, one needs to be a pretty good shot to hit such a small animal in the wild.

Or just a lucky one

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2022, 01:58:22 AM »
Oswald flaunts his commie papers, pistol on the hip, scoped rifle... maybe a smirk or two.
He's going for a look.. a 'vibe'

Yo, if you can't be good, at least look good

Yes indeed....Look good for this silly carnival  photo.... After all I'm trying to portray myself as a rough and ready communist revolutionary.....

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2022, 03:09:28 AM »
But, generally speaking, one needs to be a pretty good shot to hit such a small animal in the wild.

Or just a lucky one
Ring tail cats are almost exclusively nocturnal BTW.
They are rarely seen.
If Oswald was such a crack shot...why didn't he rate an Expert badge?
If he was such a prospective killer...why didn't he go on to sniper school instead of becoming a pansy radar tech?

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2022, 06:19:26 AM »

Right, happy to see you eventually figured it out.

However, your fine math doesn't support the claim that Oswald pulled the trigger.

How unfortunate!

No, it doesn’t. No math can do that. But what math can do is:

1.   Answer a common CT question. If Oswald was the assassin, why did he miss the easiest shot, at 43 yards, but miss the hardest shot at 88 yards.

Because the target for the first and, so called “easiest shot” had an angular speed of 4.8 degrees per second.
And the target for the second shot had an angular speed of 1.9 degrees per second.
And the target for the third and, so called “hardest shot” had an angular speed of 0.58 degrees per second.

And so, this provides an explanation of why the shots missed the center of the head by over 60 inches, then 8 inches, then 2 inches. As the angular speed of the target got less and less, the shots became more and more accurate.

2.   Show the sights helped compensate for the movement of the target. If the rifle was, somehow, which was impossible, given the same time available, adjusted for the correct ranges (for a stationary target), the rifle would miss low by 6.1 inches for the second shot and miss low by 3.7 inches for the third. But, with the Carcano zero sighted for 200 meters, the rifle would miss 1.5 inches low for the second shot and miss 1.7 inches high for the third. The Carcano rifle, by sheer luck, and not by design, provides a pretty good lead for all three shots.

So, I hold that math, alone, can provide some pretty good insights about Oswald’s shooting, and make some things that seem surprising about the Oswald shooting sequence not that surprising after all.

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2022, 01:24:34 PM »
Ring tail cats are almost exclusively nocturnal BTW.
They are rarely seen.
If Oswald was such a crack shot...why didn't he rate an Expert badge?
If he was such a prospective killer...why didn't he go on to sniper school instead of becoming a pansy radar tech?

Robert Oswald wrote that none of the three hunters had ever seen that kind of animal before. And that none of them knew what it was. It was only when they returned to Robert’s father-in-law’s farm house with it that his father-in-law identified it as a ringed tailed cat. And he said that he hadn’t seen one in 15 or 20-years.

Robert wrote that the Marines training includes practicing shooting 50-rounds per day for five days at distances up to 500-yards before the qualifying testing begins. In my opinion anyone who qualifies at even the minimum requirements for the marines is well above the average American civilian in shooting abilities.

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2022, 02:53:15 PM »
Robert Oswald wrote that none of the three hunters had ever seen that kind of animal before. And that none of them knew what it was. It was only when they returned to Robert’s father-in-law’s farm house with it that his father-in-law identified it as a ringed tailed cat. And he said that he hadn’t seen one in 15 or 20-years.

Robert wrote that the Marines training includes practicing shooting 50-rounds per day for five days at distances up to 500-yards before the qualifying testing begins. In my opinion anyone who qualifies at even the minimum requirements for the marines is well above the average American civilian in shooting abilities.

Oswald was rated as a little better than average by the marines which made him an excellent shot as against the usual sport hunter. Like they say; you have to be damned good to get to even mediocre in anything