Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2022, 03:09:28 AM »
But, generally speaking, one needs to be a pretty good shot to hit such a small animal in the wild.

Or just a lucky one
Ring tail cats are almost exclusively nocturnal BTW.
They are rarely seen.
If Oswald was such a crack shot...why didn't he rate an Expert badge?
If he was such a prospective killer...why didn't he go on to sniper school instead of becoming a pansy radar tech?

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2022, 06:19:26 AM »

Right, happy to see you eventually figured it out.

However, your fine math doesn't support the claim that Oswald pulled the trigger.

How unfortunate!

No, it doesn’t. No math can do that. But what math can do is:

1.   Answer a common CT question. If Oswald was the assassin, why did he miss the easiest shot, at 43 yards, but miss the hardest shot at 88 yards.

Because the target for the first and, so called “easiest shot” had an angular speed of 4.8 degrees per second.
And the target for the second shot had an angular speed of 1.9 degrees per second.
And the target for the third and, so called “hardest shot” had an angular speed of 0.58 degrees per second.

And so, this provides an explanation of why the shots missed the center of the head by over 60 inches, then 8 inches, then 2 inches. As the angular speed of the target got less and less, the shots became more and more accurate.

2.   Show the sights helped compensate for the movement of the target. If the rifle was, somehow, which was impossible, given the same time available, adjusted for the correct ranges (for a stationary target), the rifle would miss low by 6.1 inches for the second shot and miss low by 3.7 inches for the third. But, with the Carcano zero sighted for 200 meters, the rifle would miss 1.5 inches low for the second shot and miss 1.7 inches high for the third. The Carcano rifle, by sheer luck, and not by design, provides a pretty good lead for all three shots.

So, I hold that math, alone, can provide some pretty good insights about Oswald’s shooting, and make some things that seem surprising about the Oswald shooting sequence not that surprising after all.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2022, 01:24:34 PM »
Ring tail cats are almost exclusively nocturnal BTW.
They are rarely seen.
If Oswald was such a crack shot...why didn't he rate an Expert badge?
If he was such a prospective killer...why didn't he go on to sniper school instead of becoming a pansy radar tech?

Robert Oswald wrote that none of the three hunters had ever seen that kind of animal before. And that none of them knew what it was. It was only when they returned to Robert’s father-in-law’s farm house with it that his father-in-law identified it as a ringed tailed cat. And he said that he hadn’t seen one in 15 or 20-years.

Robert wrote that the Marines training includes practicing shooting 50-rounds per day for five days at distances up to 500-yards before the qualifying testing begins. In my opinion anyone who qualifies at even the minimum requirements for the marines is well above the average American civilian in shooting abilities.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2022, 02:53:15 PM »
Robert Oswald wrote that none of the three hunters had ever seen that kind of animal before. And that none of them knew what it was. It was only when they returned to Robert’s father-in-law’s farm house with it that his father-in-law identified it as a ringed tailed cat. And he said that he hadn’t seen one in 15 or 20-years.

Robert wrote that the Marines training includes practicing shooting 50-rounds per day for five days at distances up to 500-yards before the qualifying testing begins. In my opinion anyone who qualifies at even the minimum requirements for the marines is well above the average American civilian in shooting abilities.

Oswald was rated as a little better than average by the marines which made him an excellent shot as against the usual sport hunter. Like they say; you have to be damned good to get to even mediocre in anything

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2022, 05:36:24 PM »
The saga of not making a point continues.

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The irony!

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2022, 08:06:14 PM »

If you dropped the "Oswald" BS and said "the shooter" you might gain a bit of credibility.

Those who ignore statements from those they disagree with never learn anything.

I used to believe in Dr. Alvarez’s “Jet Effect” theory. But after hearing arguments by CTers against it and looking again at William Hoffman’s data, it became clear to me that this data, regarding JFK’s movement from z312-z318, eliminated not only a single shot from the front but also a shot from the back that caused a “Jet Effect” from causing this backwards movement. Neither would cause a constant acceleration of JFK backwards which was several times greater than the much gentler acceleration of the limousine during that time. Only a Neurological Spasm would cause this constant acceleration of JFK’s head and torso backwards, along with his right elbow suddenly rising 6 inches from z315-z318.

One should listen and consider arguments from those one disagrees with.

Missed the first shot by over 60 (sixty) inches?

I would question that number.

Well, it missed the entire limousine. From the angle Oswald shot at, and the evidence is strong enough to say it was Oswald, he would not only have to miss Kennedy and the interior of the limousine he would also have to miss the right side of the limousine, just to miss the entire limousine by the minimum possible amount. Certainly, missing the entire limousine would require a much greater miss, in inches, at z153 than such a miss at z312, when firing from almost straight behind, which would have required only a miss of two to three feet to the right to miss the entire limousine. I have not done any calculations on this, but 5 feet seems to be a reasonable guess. In any case, at z153, a miss of several feet, at a minimum, is needed for a shot aimed at JFK to miss him and the entire limousine.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswalds rifle scope ever have shims?
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2022, 08:29:31 PM »
...the Marines training includes practicing shooting 50-rounds per day for five days at distances up to 500-yards before the qualifying testing begins. In my opinion anyone who qualifies at even the minimum requirements for the marines is well above the average American civilian in shooting abilities.
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Missed the first shot by over 60 (sixty) inches?

 

Well, it missed the entire limousine.

Your average American civilian could do that.  :D