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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2022, 02:37:13 PM »
I find it interesting that no one has challenged the statement in the first post in this thread regarding  “no apparent logical arguments” coming from the Poe Dameron types. Shortly after I rejoined this forum a few years ago I asked whether or not there was any item that both sides agreed upon. The answer was no.

A logical argument depends upon having some premises that are considered valid by both sides. The Poe Dameron types on this forum apparently simply refuse to acknowledge that there are any valid premises in this case. It is analogous to Poe Dameron pretending that he wasn’t talking to General Hux (in the video).

I ask again, are there any items that both sides agree on? If not, then all the logical arguments in the world regarding this case are useless. And the Poe Dameron types will continue to “tool with” those who are willing to engage them.


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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2022, 02:37:13 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2022, 03:16:47 PM »
I find it interesting that no one has challenged the statement in the first post in this thread regarding  “no apparent logical arguments” coming from the Poe Dameron types. Shortly after I rejoined this forum a few years ago I asked whether or not there was any item that both sides agreed upon. The answer was no.

A logical argument depends upon having some premises that are considered valid by both sides. The Poe Dameron types on this forum apparently simply refuse to acknowledge that there are any valid premises in this case. It is analogous to Poe Dameron pretending that he wasn’t talking to General Hux (in the video).

I ask again, are there any items that both sides agree on? If not, then all the logical arguments in the world regarding this case are useless. And the Poe Dameron types will continue to “tool with” those who are willing to engage them.

I posted something "logical" for you to consider. I don't know how much more logical it has to be in order for you to discuss it. Yet, you won't. Find the picture (I'm not going to post it here as I've posted it numerous times elsewhere; do a little work and find it). Look at it. These are the people you hold in high regard doing THEIR work investigating the murder. Discuss it here.

Discuss why you think several WC members didn't agree with the WC's conclusions. Discuss the 70s conclusions of another esteemed government body that there WAS a conspiracy.

Tell us why you don't agree with that esteemed body but continue to believe the WC. Tell us why you don't agree that several members from the same WC you 100% believe in didn't agree with the conclusions.

That's the real challenge, Charles. We're waiting. Are you up for it? And forget all the Star Wars nonsense - it's ridiculous.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2022, 03:17:52 PM by Michael Walton »

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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2022, 03:49:46 PM »
Yes, what about the “types on this forum” who refuse to acknowledge any of the many weaknesses and misinformation inherent in the standard WC-evangelist arguments, and just regurgitate them over and over again?
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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2022, 07:37:33 PM »
I posted something "logical" for you to consider. I don't know how much more logical it has to be in order for you to discuss it. Yet, you won't. Find the picture (I'm not going to post it here as I've posted it numerous times elsewhere; do a little work and find it). Look at it. These are the people you hold in high regard doing THEIR work investigating the murder. Discuss it here.

Discuss why you think several WC members didn't agree with the WC's conclusions. Discuss the 70s conclusions of another esteemed government body that there WAS a conspiracy.

Tell us why you don't agree with that esteemed body but continue to believe the WC. Tell us why you don't agree that several members from the same WC you 100% believe in didn't agree with the conclusions.

That's the real challenge, Charles. We're waiting. Are you up for it? And forget all the Star Wars nonsense - it's ridiculous.

How dare you trash Uncle Darth
What the hell is wrong with you?
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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2022, 06:57:01 PM »
It's nice to see you never really take anything seriously on here, Bill. I mean, yeah, I have a pretty good sense of humor myself, but I also know when is a good or appropriate time to use it. But while here, it's obvious you like to just xxxx around on here without perhaps educating yourself about this case.

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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2022, 08:31:38 PM »
This scene (the conversation between General Hux and Poe Dameron), from Star Wars - The Last Jedi, reminds me of how some of the naysayers on this forum behave. They are just “tooling with” some of us….
I believe that it is a waste of time and energy to take them seriously. They have no apparent logical arguments and appear to just endlessly “tool with” whoever is willing to engage with them.
So what's your point?
To "snuff out the resistance once and for all"?

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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2022, 09:13:04 PM »
So what's your point?
To "snuff out the resistance once and for all"?

No, I think that was General Hux’s goal. I am just the one whispering the remark about “tooling”.

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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2022, 09:13:04 PM »

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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2022, 09:21:42 PM »
It's nice to see you never really take anything seriously on here, Bill. I mean, yeah, I have a pretty good sense of humor myself, but I also know when is a good or appropriate time to use it. But while here, it's obvious you like to just xxxx around on here without perhaps educating yourself about this case.

Its always a good and appropriate time to roll the eyes & raise the eyebrows when one shows up here

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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2022, 09:35:34 PM »
I find it interesting that no one has challenged the statement in the first post in this thread regarding  “no apparent logical arguments” coming from the Poe Dameron types. Shortly after I rejoined this forum a few years ago I asked whether or not there was any item that both sides agreed upon. The answer was no.

A logical argument depends upon having some premises that are considered valid by both sides. The Poe Dameron types on this forum apparently simply refuse to acknowledge that there are any valid premises in this case. It is analogous to Poe Dameron pretending that he wasn’t talking to General Hux (in the video).

I ask again, are there any items that both sides agree on? If not, then all the logical arguments in the world regarding this case are useless. And the Poe Dameron types will continue to “tool with” those who are willing to engage them.

We know that the LNer's are bonded in a common belief.... They accept the Warren Report as the truth.   And The LNers think that all CT's are bonded in a common belief.....  Nothing could be further from the truth.  I'm a hard core CT, and  I scorn many CT's who spew utter nonsense ....Like the Roger Craig's tale, for example,  that a mauser was found at the scene  but the police switched that mauser with a carcano.  What utter nonsense, but those CT's who believe it, lack the ability to reason and understand how dumb and irrational that tale is.

At any rate there are not two contingents ( LNers & CT's )   ...... I would classify the Lner's in the same group as the irrational CT's who lack the ability to reason rationally.......There are many rational doubters who reject the WR but they are not bonded in a common belief.  Many of those doubters accept that Lee Oswald fired that Carcano from the sixth floor despite the fact that he had a rock solid alibi for the time of the shooting.   He said that he was in the first floor lunchroom at the time the President passed by the TSBD, and ha saw something that occurred near that lunchroom at 12:26. Junior Jarman and Harold Norman swore that they walked by e 1st floor lunchroom at about 12:26, and Lee told Captain Fritz that he saw them walk by.

Bottom Line:....  Lee Oswald was not on the sixth floor at the time of the assassination.  This is a FACT!....    Whether there were shots fired from the sixth floor is questionable, some believe that there were, while others doubt that story.    But CT's need not be united in their belief of HOW the murder was committed......   As long as they are united in their belief that the murderer was NOT Lee Oswald.     

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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2022, 09:35:34 PM »

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Beware of Poe Dameron types
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2022, 01:35:32 AM »
Why would a rational person accept any WC BS you came up with as fact to qualify for an argument?

Especially when "tooling with" the Nutter clowns is so much fun.

A totally worthless trade-off.


And, apparently, you are satisfied to “hold for Hux” indefinitely. It’s been over 58-years but it’s just “so much fun” that you don’t care. Thanks for confirming that and illustrating the point of this thread.



 

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