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Offline Joe Elliott

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Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« on: June 22, 2022, 07:50:14 PM »

Question:

Can someone provide us with a list of witnesses, along with a link or something supporting this claim, who reported seeing JFKs head moving forward as a result of the headshot during the first three days of the assassination?


Note, this cannot include a person who saw the Zapruder film.

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Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« on: June 22, 2022, 07:50:14 PM »

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2022, 09:58:34 PM »
Question:

Can someone provide us with a list of witnesses, along with a link or something supporting this claim, who reported seeing JFKs head moving forward as a result of the headshot during the first three days of the assassination?


Note, this cannot include a person who saw the Zapruder film.

What is the purpose of this loaded question?

Is it to somehow "prove" that the head moving forward didn't happen, when we can see in the Z-film that it did?

Want to change reality again?

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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2022, 09:58:34 PM »

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2022, 01:56:16 AM »
What is the purpose of this loaded question?

Is it to somehow "prove" that the head moving forward didn't happen, when we can see in the Z-film that it did?

Want to change reality again?

If you cannot answer the question, then maybe just shut your mouth?

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
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Online David Von Pein

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2022, 02:15:57 AM »
Is it to somehow "prove" that the head moving forward didn't happen, when we can see in the Z-film that it did?

Huh?

Martin, you surely meant to say "backward" here, instead of "forward", right?
« Last Edit: June 23, 2022, 02:17:11 AM by David Von Pein »

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2022, 02:17:42 AM »
If you cannot answer the question, then maybe just shut your mouth?

Why don't you mind your own business and do what you preach?

How long do we have to wait for the source you claimed you had for Butler's second "602" being to inform the dispatcher that the ambulance was leaving the Tippit scene?
« Last Edit: June 23, 2022, 02:19:34 AM by Martin Weidmann »

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2022, 02:18:32 AM »
Huh?

Martin, you surely meant to say "backward" here, instead of "forward", right?

Need another conversation you can misrepresent on your blog?

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Online David Von Pein

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2022, 02:20:14 AM »
Need another conversation you can misrepresent on your blog?

I'm just completely perplexed by your "forward" remark, that's all. It makes no sense at all.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2022, 02:22:11 AM »
I'm just completely perplexed by your "forward" remark, that's all. It makes no sense at all.

Ask Joe Elliot. He asked the question;

Can someone provide us with a list of witnesses, along with a link or something supporting this claim, who reported seeing JFKs head moving forward as a result of the headshot.

Having said that, I am not interested in having any type of conversation with a weasel who purposely misrepresents and edits a conversation and posts the result on his own blog.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2022, 02:25:12 AM by Martin Weidmann »

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Online David Von Pein

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2022, 02:28:15 AM »
Yes, Martin, I know what Joe wrote. And I understand his comment. What makes no sense (to me) is WHY you would think Joe Elliott would have the slightest desire to want to try and prove that JFK's head didn't go forward at all?

All LNers, as far as I know, are in 100% agreement that JFK's head DID move a couple of inches FORWARD at the moment of impact at Z313. Which is one of the primary LNer arguments to combat the constant CTer refrain of "Back and to the left". I've certainly utilized the "Head Initially Goes Forward" argument many times in the past.

So why would Joe want to "prove" otherwise?

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Question about Dealey Plaza Witnesses.
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2022, 02:30:48 AM »
Yes, Martin, I know what Joe wrote. And I understand his comment. What makes no sense (to me) is WHY you would think Joe Elliott would have the slightest desire to want to try and prove that JFK's head didn't go forward at all?

All LNers, as far as I know, are in 100% agreement that JFK's head DID move a couple of inches FORWARD at the moment of impact at Z313. Which is one of the primary LNer arguments to combat the constant CTer refrain of "Back and to the left". I've certainly utilized the "Head Initially Goes Forward" argument many times in the past.

So why would Joe want to "prove" otherwise?

Which is exactly why I asked him what the purpose of his question was. Get it now?

 

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