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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2022, 08:15:08 PM »
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I can see why you stick to playing the contrarian.  You think Oswald could somehow "zip up" his shirt?  This was a bit before the disco era.  Roberts is adamant on the point that he zipped up his jacket.  There was no zipper on his shirt.  There was a zipper on the jacket. 

Mr. BALL. It was a zippered jacket, was it?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes; it was a zipper jacket. How come me to remember it,
he was zipping it up as he went out the door.
Mr. BALL. He was zipping it up as he went out the door?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes.

There was no zipper on his shirt.  There was a zipper on the jacket.
_ And his pants. Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2022, 08:52:11 PM »
Total BS.

Roberts admitted that she wasn't paying much attention as she was concentrating on the television.
This means she had her back turned towards the living room where Oswald walked from his room to the front door.
Add to this that witness testimony is highly unreliable and that Roberts, according to Mrs Johnson, was known to make up stuff and what you are left with is nothing conclusive, whether you like it or not.

If officer Baker can mistake a shirt for a jacket than Roberts, who had poor eye sight, could just as easily have done the same.
So, no, it's not far more than arguing that Oswald was not wearing a jacket as he went out the door.

So Oswald left in a zip-up shirt.  Got it.

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2022, 08:54:41 PM »
It's the typical dishonest and desperate contrarian attempt to create fake doubt by any means.  Like the endlessly repeated false claim that there is somehow doubt in Marina's WC testimony that she saw a rifle in the blanket.

Absolutely correct, Sir.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2022, 09:09:09 PM »
Am I to make sense out of these incoherent ramblings?

Ramble this: YOU JUST CALLED EARLENE A LIAR

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2022, 10:21:21 PM »
So Oswald left in a zip-up shirt.  Got it.

Or there just was no zipper.... just like there was no police car honking outside the rooming house.

Just consider the source......


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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2022, 10:58:16 PM »
Or there just was no zipper.... just like there was no police car honking outside the rooming house.

Just consider the source......

Roberts mentioned the jacket to a reporter on the afternoon of the murder.

She didn't mention the horn-honking incident until about one week later once the accused assassin himself was gunned down sparking whispers of conspiracy.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2022, 12:08:13 AM »
Ramble this: YOU JUST CALLED EARLENE A LIAR

According to Johnson, her boss, she was. Deal with it.

If she wasn't a liar, she also did not lie about the police car honking in front of her house, right?
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2022, 12:12:19 AM »
Roberts mentioned the jacket to a reporter on the afternoon of the murder.

She didn't mention the horn-honking incident until about one week later once the accused assassin himself was gunned down sparking whispers of conspiracy.

So, what's your point?

She couldn't have made a mistake (like Baker and Whaley did) and didn't lie about the zipper on day one, but she did concoct and lie about this police car a week later?

That's some reliable witness, you've got there!  Thumb1:

Henry Wade must have busted for joy when Oswald was killed and saved him from having to go to trial with fruitcakes like Roberts as his best witnesses.
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