A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket

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Online Richard Smith

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2022, 06:10:51 PM »

Earlene Roberts has Oswald zipping up a jacket as he went out the door.  Nothing about "kind of" zipping up a jacket.


Which is far more than you have when arguing that Oswald was not wearing a jacket as he went out the door.

It's the typical dishonest and desperate contrarian attempt to create fake doubt by any means.  Like the endlessly repeated false claim that there is somehow doubt in Marina's WC testimony that she saw a rifle in the blanket. 

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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2022, 06:20:51 PM »


If officer Baker can mistake a shirt for a jacket than Roberts, who had poor eye sight, could just as easily have done the same.
So, no, it's not far more than arguing that Oswald was not wearing a jacket as he went out the door.

I can see why you stick to playing the contrarian.  You think Oswald could somehow "zip up" his shirt?  This was a bit before the disco era.  Roberts is adamant on the point that he zipped up his jacket.  There was no zipper on his shirt.  There was a zipper on the jacket. 

Mr. BALL. It was a zippered jacket, was it?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes; it was a zipper jacket. How come me to remember it,
he was zipping it up as he went out the door.
Mr. BALL. He was zipping it up as he went out the door?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2022, 06:21:42 PM by Richard Smith »

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2022, 06:51:01 PM »
It's the typical dishonest and desperate contrarian attempt to create fake doubt by any means.  Like the endlessly repeated false claim that there is somehow doubt in Marina's WC testimony that she saw a rifle in the blanket.

No, it’s real doubt about something that isn’t even evidence to begin with.

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2022, 06:51:01 PM »

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2022, 08:00:09 PM »
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Total BS
_ You should at least try to cut down on that sort of thing , even though it suits you

Roberts admitted that she wasn't paying much attention as she was concentrating on the television.
This means she had her back turned towards the living room where Oswald walked from his room to the front door.

_LOL. 'Admitted', or merely 'said'? Not like you're trying to depict Earlene as being involved in something sinister.
_ And are you claiming Roberts was unable to turn her head?

Add to this that witness testimony is highly unreliable
_ Would that happen to include Arnold Rowland's by any chance?

And that Roberts, according to Mrs Johnson, was known to make up stuff
_ Mrs Johnson. Wasn't she a bit of a busybody? I think I heard something along those lines.
 
And what you are left with is nothing conclusive, whether you like it or not.
_What we are left with is six decades of CTer wash, rinse and repeat

If officer Baker can mistake a shirt for a jacket than Roberts, who had poor eye sight, could just as easily have done the same.
Earlene was not in a poorly-lit hallway

Roberts, who had poor eye sight
_ LOL... Are you claiming her glasses were also weak?

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2022, 08:15:08 PM »
I can see why you stick to playing the contrarian.  You think Oswald could somehow "zip up" his shirt?  This was a bit before the disco era.  Roberts is adamant on the point that he zipped up his jacket.  There was no zipper on his shirt.  There was a zipper on the jacket. 

Mr. BALL. It was a zippered jacket, was it?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes; it was a zipper jacket. How come me to remember it,
he was zipping it up as he went out the door.
Mr. BALL. He was zipping it up as he went out the door?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes.

There was no zipper on his shirt.  There was a zipper on the jacket.
_ And his pants. Sorry, couldn't resist.

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'Playing contrarian'

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the horns playing Devil's Advocate
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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2022, 08:52:11 PM »
Total BS.

Roberts admitted that she wasn't paying much attention as she was concentrating on the television.
This means she had her back turned towards the living room where Oswald walked from his room to the front door.
Add to this that witness testimony is highly unreliable and that Roberts, according to Mrs Johnson, was known to make up stuff and what you are left with is nothing conclusive, whether you like it or not.

If officer Baker can mistake a shirt for a jacket than Roberts, who had poor eye sight, could just as easily have done the same.
So, no, it's not far more than arguing that Oswald was not wearing a jacket as he went out the door.

So Oswald left in a zip-up shirt.  Got it.

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2022, 08:54:41 PM »
It's the typical dishonest and desperate contrarian attempt to create fake doubt by any means.  Like the endlessly repeated false claim that there is somehow doubt in Marina's WC testimony that she saw a rifle in the blanket.

Absolutely correct, Sir.

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2022, 09:09:09 PM »
Am I to make sense out of these incoherent ramblings?

Ramble this: YOU JUST CALLED EARLENE A LIAR

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2022, 10:21:21 PM »
So Oswald left in a zip-up shirt.  Got it.

Or there just was no zipper.... just like there was no police car honking outside the rooming house.

Just consider the source......


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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: A Lot Of Racket About One Ditched Jacket
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2022, 10:58:16 PM »
Or there just was no zipper.... just like there was no police car honking outside the rooming house.

Just consider the source......

Roberts mentioned the jacket to a reporter on the afternoon of the murder.

She didn't mention the horn-honking incident until about one week later once the accused assassin himself was gunned down sparking whispers of conspiracy.

 

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