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Online Charles Collins

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #216 on: June 18, 2022, 05:57:06 PM »
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Let's analyze this;

You've just been shown information from two dictionaries. You then fail to do your own research, beyond a clearly inadequate source and are apparently sufficiently happy with that, to post an argument for argument's sake (yet again)!

Must be a LN  :D

Just providing information. No argument intended.
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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #217 on: June 18, 2022, 06:44:18 PM »
The WC narrative is the poster child for ignoring whatever doesn’t fit.

What does fit is the photo of you happily taking a knee at Oswald's grave

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #218 on: June 20, 2022, 03:49:14 PM »
People need to understand the WC wasn't set up as Judge and Jury commission. It's apples and oranges of what a Judge and Jury decide in court versus the WC. Hell Oswald had no legal representation with the WC.

This is true. But are you trying to imply something with your statement? If so, please spell it out for us.

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #219 on: June 20, 2022, 05:18:40 PM »
People need to understand the WC wasn't set up as Judge and Jury commission. It's apples and oranges of what a Judge and Jury decide in court versus the WC. Hell Oswald had no legal representation with the WC.

Yes it is “apples and oranges”, however, Walter E. Craig, then president of the American bar association, represented LHO. He was given access to ALL of the WC’s records, hearings, etc.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #220 on: June 20, 2022, 05:52:34 PM »
Yes it is “apples and oranges”, however, Walter E. Craig, then president of the American bar association, represented LHO. He was given access to ALL of the WC’s records, hearings, etc.

"represented Oswald"... What does that mean exactly?

For what purpose exactly did he have access to all WC files etc?

Was he allowed to cross examine witnesses?

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #221 on: June 20, 2022, 06:24:12 PM »
The man y’all love to hate tells it like it is. Again, I am providing information. No argument intended. Just correcting the claim by Paul J Cummings.


“Rather belatedly, on February 25, 1964, the Commission, wanting to ensure the fairness of its inquiry to the alleged assassin and his family, requested Walter E. Craig, president of the American Bar Association, to participate in the hearings and investigation and advise the Commission whether the proceedings “conformed to the basic principles of American justice.” In effect, he was to look after Oswald’s interests and was even authorized to question witnesses if he desired. Marina Oswald agreed with the arrangement. Craig accepted the appointment but he (and two associates of his who attended the hearings whenever he was absent) was virtually a nonexistent presence at the hearings, asking very few questions (and those innocuous and non-adversarial) of very few witnesses. In no way could they be considered conventional cross-examination. He could have performed the function of a responsible devil’s advocate, asking key Warren Commission witnesses questions that a competent defense attorney would have, but he failed abysmally in this effort and, through no fault of the Warren Commission, turned out to be mere window dressing for the expressed goal of helping to guarantee that a deceased accused be treated fairly and objectively.”  Vince Bugliosi - Reclaiming History

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #222 on: June 20, 2022, 07:24:54 PM »
So basically he didn’t “represent” Oswald at all…

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #223 on: June 20, 2022, 08:18:38 PM »
So basically he didn’t “represent” Oswald at all…

As Paul J Cummings said, this wasn’t a trial.