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Online Richard Smith

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Re: A Well-Regulated Militia.
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2022, 07:48:16 PM »
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How about someone ask why four (count them) police officers committed suicide?  Has any "Jan. 6" investigator looked into that oddity?  I have no idea and neither does anyone else.  It seems like an astronomically high number that creates some basis for investigation since these four are falsely lumped into the death toll for Jan. 6.  There was actually one person killed that day.  An unarmed protestor.  The media to this day, however, claim five police officers were killed.  One died of natural causes the next day despite false media reports that he died after being hit with a fire extinguisher that continue until this day.  The other four were suicides days later.   None died on Jan. 6 or as the result of any injury sustained on Jan. 6.

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2022, 12:17:33 PM »
First of all, these were not "protesters". These were insurrectionists trying to overthrow the US government and they had no business being there   

The "so called unarmed woman" was trying to breach a highly secured area to attack members of Congress in the chamber. She refused to back off from coming through a Capitol window so she was shot. I already posted her photo breaching the area above.       

We already know why Capitol police officers have committed suicide after the January 6th insurrection. We were told why during the January 6th Inquiry last year when Capitol police officers who were injured in the attack and the families of the officers testified as to why. All the articles and videos are documented below which show why.

The officers committed suicide due to the severe trauma they had to go through when they were fighting off Trump's insurrectionist thugs for several hours. They have been ruled "line of duty deaths" so the deaths are considered January 6th deaths. 

Officer Brian Sicknick did not die from "natural causes". He was beaten in the head by Trump's thugs on January 6th and fell ill during the riot as told by fellow Capitol police officer Caroline Edwards. The injuries he sustained caused him to have 2 strokes the next day which killed him. Officer Brian Sicknick died as a result of the beating he took and died because of Trump and his thugs.

One of those colleagues was Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died from two strokes the day after the attack.

"All of a sudden, I see movement to the left of me. I turned, and it was Officer Sicknick with his head in his hands and he was ghostly pale, which I figured at that point, he had been sprayed and I was concerned. My cop alarm bells went off. Because if you get sprayed with pepper spray, you're going to turn red. He turned just about as pale as this sheet of paper," she said.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/january-6-hearing-caroline-edwards-capitol-police-officer-testimony/



Officers Give Harrowing Testimony On Their Experience Defending The Capitol On Jan. 6
July, 27 2021

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/27/1019736664/jan-6-insurrection-hearing-police-nancy-pelosi-committee

Police recount mayhem and 'attempted coup' in U.S. Capitol riot
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/police-who-defended-us-capitol-testify-riot-probes-first-hearing-2021-07-27/

July 27, 2021 House select committee hearing on Capitol riot
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/jan-6-house-select-committee-hearing-07-27-21/index.html

'Constant trauma': After 2 post-insurrection suicides, DC's top cop has mental health woes
https://wjla.com/news/local/2-post-insurrection-suicides-dcs-top-cop-mental-health-woes

Police Officer’s Suicide After Jan. 6 Riot Is Ruled a Line-of-Duty Death
“If he did not go to work that day, he would be here,” said the widow of Officer Jeffrey Smith of the Metropolitan Police.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/us/police-suicide-capitol-riot.html

New Program Helps Capitol Police Deal With Trauma From The Insurrection
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/25/989201440/new-program-helps-capitol-police-deal-with-trauma-from-the-insurrection

Angels on campus’: Record number of Capitol staff seek counseling in year after Jan. 6
https://rollcall.com/2022/01/05/staff-seek-counseling-capitol-riot/

'It's going to prey on their minds': Lawmakers call for mental health help for police and staff in wake of Capitol riot
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/05/capitol-riots-congress-asks-mental-health-services-officers/4348823001/


Officer Michael Fanone testifies before House Select Committee

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House select committee on U.S. Capitol riot holds first hearing July 27, 2021

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Horrifying moment Trump mob hits cops with a FIRE EXTINGUISHER, flags, signs & crutches

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Re: A Well-Regulated Militia.
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2022, 04:27:14 PM »
If you watch the video of the shooting death of the unarmed protestor, you see several officers standing in front of the door.  A few protestors stand there and do nothing for several minutes.  These officers then step aside and stand with their backs against the wall for some reason watching but doing nothing.  Again, these officers do not intervene and are not attacked by anyone.  They seemingly received a message to stand down.  The unarmed women then is shot at point blank range by an officer on the other side of the door.  Thousands of similar protestors in the building are not shot.  Should the police have mowed down everyone who entered the building?  This is a public building.  These individuals were trespassing in unauthorized area of the building.  That is not a justification to use lethal force.  The investigation of this shooting was conducted in secrecy (entirely in contrast to the radical left's calls for greater transparency in police shootings).  Even the name of the shooter was not disclosed for months.  A police officer in the other chamber calmly accompanied several unarmed protestors as they sat in the speakers chair.  He did not kill these men because there was no legal justification to do so.  They were not threatening anyone although in the commission of a misdemeanor trespass crime.  For which they were charged.
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Re: A Well-Regulated Militia.
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2022, 05:02:56 PM »
The nonsense above that the investigation was "done in secret" is bogus. It was a regular internal investigation like all of them are conducted and the police officer was found innocent of any wrongdoing.

USCP Completes Internal Investigation into the January 6 Officer-Involved Shooting
https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/uscp-completes-internal-investigation-january-6-officer-involved
       
Once again, these thugs were not "protesters°. Anyone who says that is flat out not telling the truth.

Watch this video below. Do these thugs look like normal "protesters"?

Do they look like they "weren't threatening anyone"? The nonsense written above is absurd.

And these thugs just didn't get a "misdemeanor trespass crime". Some were sentenced to prison for 5 years for their violent actions. Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers militia were indicted for seditious conspiracy which when convicted, they will get 14 years in prison maximum.   

They were a violent radical insurrectionist mob that was intent on stopping the vote certification and were looking to hang Mike Pence and members of Congress. They were trying to overthrow the government.

They illegally stormed the Capitol, beat police officers, broke windows to get inside the Capitol. Once they were inside, they were destroying the inside of the Capitol.

The aides and staff of our congressional leaders were running for their lives. Elected officials barely escaped the chamber before the mob got there.

The police feared for their lives with a violent mob breaking down the door to get to the House chamber.

The fact is, these insurrectionist thugs had no business being inside the Capitol during Biden's certification. They were there to stop it by force.

Capitol police officers are stationed in secure areas to protect our elected officials. Anyone who breaches that area is liable to get shot. That is common sense.

Of course you would use lethal force when your life is in danger. Right wingers make a big deal about guns for protection, but when Capitol police use a gun for protecting our elected officials they cry when an insurrectionist gets shot for attempting to harm our elected officials.

The hypocrisy from the right is unbelievable. And don't forget Republicans lives were in just as much danger inside the Capitol but they are defending this violent insurrection and attempted coup.

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WATCH: Jan. 6 committee shows new footage of Capitol attack


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Re: A Well-Regulated Militia.
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2022, 11:42:29 PM »
Nine-page plan to occupy congressional buildings on January 6, 2021, released in court filing

CNN — A lawyer for one of the Proud Boys charged with seditious conspiracy released a 9-page document on Wednesday that outlines a plan to occupy key congressional buildings connected to the US Capitol and the Supreme Court on January 6, 2021, and to distribute a list of demands calling for a new election.

The plan envisioned using “covert sleeper(s)” to set up fake appointments in federal buildings and then having people “rush the building.” It claimed: “We have the ability to … Target Specific Senators Offices.”

The plan also included handing out flyers to demand “a new election” on January 20, 2021, and to warn prominent Republicans including then-Vice President Mike Pence and Sen. Mitch McConnell that, “We the people are watching you.”

Details of the document had been previously disclosed in court. But the full document, titled “1776 Returns,” has now been filed as part of a seditious conspiracy case against members of the Proud Boys, including the group’s leader, Enrique Tarrio. Prosecutors say Tarrio got a copy of the document before January 6.

The document has previously been cited by the Justice Department as well as the House select committee to show how extremist organizations such as the Proud Boys were considering storming government buildings as early as December 2020. Video from the riot shows members of the Proud Boys among the first to breach Capitol grounds.

Now, as federal prosecutors bring high-profile charges like seditious conspiracy, a defense lawyer for a member in the far-right group is pointing to the document as evidence that prosecutors are overstating the group’s alleged plans for January 6.

“1776 Returns is not a plan to attack the Capitol and does not even mention the Capitol,” Carmen Hernandez, who represents Proud Boys member Zachary Rehl, wrote in a court filing arguing for his release from jail. “It refers to occupying Congressional office buildings.”

While the superseding indictment charging the Proud Boys with seditious conspiracy added very little new information to the existing prosecution, it did include messages Tarrio sent the evening of January 6, seemingly referencing the plan to occupy congressional buildings.

Hernandez also cites portions of a new transcript of a December 30, 2020, call for a chapter of the Proud Boys called the Ministry of Self Defense that had been tasked with organizing national rallies.

In the call, according to the transcript, Tarrio warned others in the group to remain sober during rallies. “This specific chapter is going to have a code of conduct stricter than other chapters when it comes to these National public events,” Tarrio told the group.

According to the transcript, Tarrio also told the group to act only in self-defense, adding that “we’re never going to be the ones to cross the police barrier … in order to get to somebody.”

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/15/politics/1776-returns-document-capitol-january-6/index.html

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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2022, 11:53:00 AM »
All Three of the Capitol Complex Buildings Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA) Gave January 6 Insurrectionists Access to and a Tour of on Insurrection Eve Appear As Circled Targets in the “1776 Returns” Coup Blueprints Shared Amongst Trump’s January 6 Paramilitaries militias.

Released yesterday by the January 6th Committee. Read below the “1776 returns” document found on Proud Boys leader Tarrio. Rep. Loudermilk should know that the Cannon, Longworth, & Rayburn buildings were on the “TARGETED BUILDINGS” list, and part of the plan was to “set up meetings with reps in target buildings.”





All of these Republicans need to answer why they were all hanging out with Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio who was indicted for seditious conspiracy and planned to take over buildings by force in DC with this thugs. 


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Re: A Well-Regulated Militia.
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2022, 12:13:50 AM »
So much for the bogus false claim that "nobody was threatened" on January 6th and these were just simply "protesters". Trump supporters who are the extreme right wing militias wanted to gas Democratic Congressmen to death inside the tunnels they were hiding in from Trump's rioters. The day before on Jan 5, 2021, insurrectionists were given a "tour" of the Capitol by Republican Representative Barry Loudermilk where they were taking pictures of these tunnels and staircases, so they knew exactly where our elected officials would be. These are the same militias who plotted to take over government buildings in DC by force. Their plans are in my post above.       

Oath Keepers plotted to attack lawmakers in tunnels photographed by GOPer’s Capitol tour group
Extremists plotted to "gas" lawmakers after "sealing them in" the Capitol tunnels

Right wing extremists charged in the U.S. Capitol riot threatened to "gas" lawmakers in tunnels where Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., led a tour the previous day.

The Georgia Republican led a group of 15 individuals later identified by police as constituents on a tour of the Capitol complex, where one participant took photos of hallways, staircases and tunnels, and that same man was shown on video from Jan. 6 shouting threats against individual Democratic lawmakers.

"We're coming to take you out and pull you out by your hairs," the man says, referring to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. "When I get done with you, you're going to need a shine on top of that bald head."

Conspiracy charges filed shortly after the riot showed a group of three Oath Keepers were particularly interested in lawmakers' movements in the tunnels underneath the Capitol complex, and one of them, Thomas Edward Caldwell, allegedly received a Facebook message about them.

"All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in," reads the message. "Turn on gas."

Caldwell also received another message on the topic, according to an affidavit that replicates spelling errors in the original statement.

"Tom all legislators are down in the Tunnels 3 floors down," the message reads. "Do like we had to do when I was in the core (sic) start tearing oit florrs go from top to bottom."

The Jan. 6 committee noted on Wednesday that the tour had visited "entrances to Capitol tunnels."

"Individuals on the tour photographed/recorded areas not typically of interest to tourists: hallways, staircases and security checkpoints," the committee tweeted.

https://www.salon.com/2022/06/15/oath-keepers-plotted-to-lawmakers-in-tunnels-photographed-by-gopers-capitol-tour-group_partner/

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Re: A Well-Regulated Militia.
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2022, 12:04:14 PM »
We read the bogus claim above that these insurrectionists "weren't threatening anyone".

Well, why does this militia insurrectionist who illegally broke into the House chamber have zip ties in his hand?

He wanted to take members of Congress as hostages to overthrow the government.