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Online Joe Elliott

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A Well-Regulated Militia.
« on: June 05, 2022, 06:54:53 AM »

A Well-Regulated Militia.

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ďA well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.Ē

To me, the second amendment could not be clearer. So long as a citizen is a member of a well-regulated Militia, the federal government will not interfere with their right to bear arms. Presumably, this does not mean a few drinking buddies declaring themselves to be a ďwell-regulatedĒ Militia. Presumably it means one controlled by a Governor or a state government.
The language could not be clearer. If the real intent was to say the federal government will not interfere with any citizen bearing arms, the language was very confusing. And the writers of the Constitution and itís first ten amendments were pretty good at writing in clear, easily understood manner.
The second amendment was never used to protect the rights of any citizen to own guns of any type, until arbitrary decisions of certain courts starting in the 1950ís. The Dred Scott decision of the 1850ís, making slavery legal throughout the United States, the 1950ís court rulings on guns, the 2021 Supreme Court overturning Roe vs. Wade, are all examples of courts just making up new law that they think would be good for the country.

Are guns necessary for citizens to maintain Democracy. As a last resort that can be used if a dictator seizes control of the country, against the wishes of the majority?

The events of January 6, 2021 lead me to believe that armed citizens are as likely to take up arms to take down democracy as they are to protect it. So, the loss of thousands each year to gun violence, which other countries do not have, does not seem to buy us anything.
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Re: A Well-Regulated Militia.
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2022, 10:26:52 AM »
The radical right has already been talking about taking up arms for a "civil war". Some of them tried to on Jan 6th.

Right wing extremists already have their militias like the proud boys, oath keepers, three percenters who tried to overthrow the government on Jan 6th and you have GOP members of congress who have ties to these violent militias. 

They wanted Jan 6 to be their 1776.

You have wannabe dictator in Florida Ron DeSantis implementing a "secret police" to intimidate and harass voters at the polls.   

Criminal Donald "retweeted" a call for civil war on his bogus social media site.

It's no secret these Republican fascists want to end democracy and replace it with an authoritarian regime like in Hungary. It's why Tucker Carlson slobbers over Orban in Hungary and the far right had the CPAC over there. And the sheep who belong to the Republican party as voters are willing to go right along with it.   

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2022, 09:01:51 AM »
Oath Keepers insurrection on Jan 6th.


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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2022, 12:12:48 AM »
20 active-duty troops signed up for the extremist Oath Keepers militia ó many with their military emails
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-troops-oath-keepers-militia-official-military-emails-2022-1

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2022, 04:00:26 PM »
The radical right has already been talking about taking up arms for a "civil war". Some of them tried to on Jan 6th.

Right wing extremists already have their militias like the proud boys, oath keepers, three percenters who tried to overthrow the government on Jan 6th and you have GOP members of congress who have ties to these violent militias. 

They wanted Jan 6 to be their 1776.

You have wannabe dictator in Florida Ron DeSantis implementing a "secret police" to intimidate and harass voters at the polls.   

Criminal Donald "retweeted" a call for civil war on his bogus social media site.

It's no secret these Republican fascists want to end democracy and replace it with an authoritarian regime like in Hungary. It's why Tucker Carlson slobbers over Orban in Hungary and the far right had the CPAC over there. And the sheep who belong to the Republican party as voters are willing to go right along with it.   

The only "arms" used on Jan. 6 was a gun fired by a Capitol police officer that killed an unarmed woman and former military vet.  The greater threat to democracy is suppressing free speech and having show trials designed to lock up dissenters.  Like something out of the Stalinist-era.  Fortunately Americans voters have not been fooled. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2022, 12:22:04 PM »
Whoever claims that "no guns" were brought to the Capitol on January 6th is simply not telling the truth.

Yes folks, these Trump insurrectionist degenerates brought guns to the Capitol. It's been well documented guns were brought and prosecutors used that evidence to send some of these thugs to prison. In fact, the articles and the video below details the guns that were brought to the Capitol by Trump thugs on January 6th. Militias who were in contact with Trump insiders had weapons stockpiled for January 6th and they have now been indicted for seditious conspiracy. I've been documenting this for months.

Insurrectionist apologists lie about January 6th to downplay the violence from Trump's thugs. The right wing media does this on a daily basis and so does Republican politicians who were involved in the coup.           

"Free Speech" does not entitle you to take part in a violent mob to beat police officers, break inside the Capitol, ransack the inside of the Capitol, and attempt to hunt down members of Congress to kill them. People who engage in a violent coup to overthrow the government will be arrested, prosecuted, and imprisoned. That's how the law works in America and it's not "suppressing free speech" or "Stalinist" to arrest violent criminals taking part in a violent coup.       

As for the "unarmed woman", she was illegally breaking through a Capitol window door breaching a highly secured area which was near the House chamber. A Capitol police officer told her to retreat more than once and she refused and kept coming through. So fearing for his life, with a mob behind her she was shot. It was her own fault. When a cop tells you to "retreat" and "stand down", you do it, and don't keep coming at him. She had no business being inside the Capitol or breaking through a Capitol window in a highly secured area. If it wasn't for this brave police officer taking her down, that mob would have broken through to violently attack members of Congress who barely escaped the chamber.   

Here she is below breaking through a Capitol window with the violent mob right behind her. She had absolutely no business breaking through this window trying to get to our elected officials. The purpose of the Capitol police is to protect our elected officials from deranged violent lunatics like this woman was. This should be common sense.     






Handguns, crowbars, Tasers and tomahawk axes: Dozens of Capitol rioters wielded "deadly or dangerous" weapons, prosecutors say
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capitol-riot-weapons-deadly-dangerous/

Trump Extremists Brought Numerous Guns on January 6, Evidence Shows
Rioters at the Capitol carried concealed pistols, allegedly stockpiled weapons nearby, and called for overthrowing the US government.
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2021/09/trump-extremists-guns-january-6-insurrection-congress-domestic-terrorism/

Oath Keepers Cached Weapons for Jan. 6 Capitol Attack, Prosecutors Say
Cartloads of arms and ammunition were at the ready at a Virginia hotel, according to an indictment against members of the far-right militia group
https://www.wsj.com/articles/oath-keepers-cached-weapons-for-jan-6-capitol-attack-prosecutors-say-11642693058

Alabama man sentenced to 46 months for bringing guns, Molotov cocktails, other weapons to Capitol Hill on Jan. 6
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-lonnie-coffman-guns-molotov-cocktails-capitol/

Trump Extremists Brought Numerous Guns on January 6, Evidence Shows

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Re: A Well-Regulated Militia.
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2022, 12:36:30 AM »
A Militia Memberís Admission About Guns and the Capitol

NEW from THE TRACE: New bill targets lawbreaking gun dealers. Congressional Democrats want to toughen penalties for unscrupulous gun dealers with a measure that follows our reporting and President Joe Bidenís pledge to make combating dealer noncompliance a significant part of his violence prevention strategy. If approved, the reintroduction of the Keeping Gun Dealers Honest Act would make it easier for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to shutter lawbreaking gun dealers and allow the agency to fine them as much as $10,000 for each violation of federal rules. The bill would also increase penalties for dealers that falsify records, raise the number of times the ATF is allowed to inspect gun dealers, and allow the agency to hire more inspectors. Brian Freskos has that story.

Oath Keeper admits he stashed guns for insurrection. Mark Grods pleaded guilty to two felony counts of conspiracy and obstructing Congress, and acknowledged the Justice Departmentís claims that he and members of the far-right militant group came to Washington, D.C., on January 6 with plans for violence and to get weapons into the city, where guns are heavily restricted. Grods is the second Oath Keeper to take a government plea deal admitting to conspiracy charges, following Graydon Young last week. A third Oath Keeper at the Capitol pleaded guilty to an unrelated charge. Related: The DOJ charged a U.S. Army veteran who was the first alleged Capitol rioter to have ties to the boogaloo movement, a loosely organized far-right faction prepping for a civil war. The Trace has covered how ammo makers and gun shops have been marketing to boogaloo believers.

https://www.thetrace.org/newsletter/a-militia-members-admission-about-guns-and-the-capitol/

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