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« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2022, 06:13:45 PM »
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Same with Marina. And Michael Paine. The DeMohrenschildts. Many others. If this was scripted out, if their testimony was prepared or orchestrated, they could have said he expressed anti-JFK views. He boasted about having a rifle.

There's a long list of obvious things the alleged master minds of this supposed conspiracy could have done to implicate Oswald directly. Have four people in the crowd at Dealey Plaza who say they saw Oswald in the window. On and on and on.

Conspiracy advocates seem to believe the conspirators had unlimited powers and abilities. But in these obvious instances of where they would use that power they didn't.

The answer for these failures is.......?

Think of all the documents forged to link him to the rifle.  Why didn't the conspirators just forge another Walker-like note that Oswald would have left with Marina confessing to the JFK assassination?  Why not have a police officer shoot Oswald in the TSBD or TT instead of arresting him, allowing him to speak to the press, then finding someone willing to murder him and go to jail for the rest of his life while staying quiet?  The application of logic and common sense, however, is not permitted in the contrarian world.  Nothing is provable.  Nothing needs to be explained or make sense.  There are only "assumptions" and "opinions" and "chain of custody" and "LOL."   

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« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2022, 08:58:13 PM »
Think of all the documents forged to link him to the rifle.

No forgery necessary. All you need is for a handwriting “analyst” on the payroll to say that a few block-written letters look like Oswald’s handwriting.
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« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2022, 09:00:52 PM »
Additionally, the Texas Employment Commission tried to contact Oswald on October 16th which was his first day at the TSBD. This job reportedly paid more than the one Oswald had just taken.

Ruth didn’t tell Lee about that call, did she?

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« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2022, 11:48:31 PM »
Same with Marina. And Michael Paine. The DeMohrenschildts. Many others. If this was scripted out, if their testimony was prepared or orchestrated, they could have said he expressed anti-JFK views. He boasted about having a rifle.

There's a long list of obvious things the alleged master minds of this supposed conspiracy could have done to implicate Oswald directly. Have four people in the crowd at Dealey Plaza who say they saw Oswald in the window. On and on and on.

Conspiracy advocates seem to believe the conspirators had unlimited powers and abilities. But in these obvious instances of where they would use that power they didn't.

The answer for these failures is.......?

Less is very often more. The more elaborate the plan, the bigger the risk of a screw up. Keep it simple and tight.

Btw, you seem to believe that every person who was part of a conspiracy knew the entire plan and actively participated. That is a strawman.

For instance, do you think that everybody who worked for Bernie Madoff was 100% aware of what was going on and participated willingly in it?
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« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2022, 11:51:17 PM »
No forgery necessary. All you need is for a handwriting “analyst” on the payroll to say that a few block-written letters look like Oswald’s handwriting.

There's that, or alternatively, manipulate Oswald into writing that order form for you and letting you use his P.O. Box address.

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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2022, 05:39:08 PM »
Are the Lone Assassin experts in Max Good's film treated fairly?

http://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/2022/06/the-assassination-and-mrs-paine-ln.html

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Re: The Assassination and Mrs. Paine
« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2022, 06:22:25 PM »
Think of all the documents forged to link him to the rifle.  Why didn't the conspirators just forge another Walker-like note that Oswald would have left with Marina confessing to the JFK assassination?  Why not have a police officer shoot Oswald in the TSBD or TT instead of arresting him, allowing him to speak to the press, then finding someone willing to murder him and go to jail for the rest of his life while staying quiet?  The application of logic and common sense, however, is not permitted in the contrarian world.  Nothing is provable.  Nothing needs to be explained or make sense.  There are only "assumptions" and "opinions" and "chain of custody" and "LOL."
As was noted before, they let Oswald do this:


Then they order Ruby to kill Oswald to prevent him from exposing the plot. And then they let Ruby do this:


Oswald met with his mother, his brother, his wife, the head of the Dallas Bar Association. He was able to make unmonitored phone calls. He met with the press. Ruby does jailhouse interviews. He talks to his brother and Rabbi and others. He meets with the press.

If you seriously think this was done by the government, they why the heck would they allow all of this to happen? In 30 seconds either man could expose this alleged entire conspiracy. At any time.